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A Salvation Story that Leaves Me with Questions I Hope Others can Help With

Steven Yeadon

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Hi, I'll go to my story, as it leaves me a little perplexed.

I had a lukewarm and misguided faith two years ago, that in the end left me wondering where in fact I would go when I died, because I couldn't tell from passages in the bible warning us about false Christians whether I was one or not. What really convinced me was that in tormenting pain from chronic pain illnesses I abandoned God as just my imagination, and because I had never found anything close to a semblance of victory over sin after twelve years of fighting. It was like I was at war with God Almighty when I turned on my sin, which is not at all the experience of a light yoke spoken of in the bible.

I had become a Christian from atheism twelve years prior, but my whole life changed the moment I stopped relying on science and reason as a liberal Christian and just put blind faith in Jesus and the bible. I became a fundamentalist overnight and in time I would leave the Charismatic/Pentecostal/New Apostolic Reformation movements and stop being high church in my theology. Although, I did go back recently to the Charismatic movements until this board saved me along with the miracle of losing my "sign" gifts, when I prayed that anything not of God go away.

Now, the thing that really gets me is that I changed pretty dramatically after putting blind faith in Jesus and the bible. Shockingly, the following days showed my internal world to be changed: Many sins I wrestled with hardly bothered me at all anymore, my mind became sober at last instead of being deranged and scheming, as it had always been since high school, I no longer felt great darkness in me all the time, I wanted to earnestly live a holy life and separate myself from Hollywood culture, I became much better at fighting my temptations, I lost most of the embarrassment I felt when sharing Jesus to others, I found it possible to follow the commands of the bible that I had found impossible to live up to, and my mental health disorders also improved.

I would get baptized a second time. Since, I considered my first baptism to be that of a man who didn't fully put blind faith in the Gospel he was being baptized into. This time understanding well the bible verses that spoke of baptism, which gave me great joy to know. Though, I have struggled with whether I should have been re-baptized, because I was very enthusiastic about my new faith and what the bible taught after leaving atheism. However, I let myself get lulled into complacency and liberal theology.

That said, ruminating on all of this I have some questions for those with other eyes and minds than mine:

Is this experience of a radical change immediately after the prayer of salvation normal? Given we talk of a saving, changing faith; should we expect to see a difference in a person just moments or days after the prayer of salvation? Is that potentially misguided though?

Did I do the right thing in getting re-baptized? How much should we understand the bible teachings on baptism before being baptized, given the joy I had the second time around? What makes for an efficacious baptism?

Also, I am clearly one of the bad soils for twelve years having both shallow root, that I abandoned belief of God in pain from illnesses. Let alone, what I would do if being tortured for the sake of the Gospel, and get told it all ends if I just abandon my dead faith. I also let weeds choke me to death back then. I was once told that we can by our own effort switch the type of soil we are, but it seems to me this may instead be that real saving faith always comes about by a good soil. That if we believe we have shallow root or no fruit, it means we should get back to basics in fear and trembling. What are your thoughts on this rumination?
 

HAMel

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You ask, "Is this experience of a radical change immediately after the prayer of salvation normal?"

Each of us react differently, I suppose, but the most radical and instant change is within..., as it was to the blind man when he confessed..., "I was blind but now I see!" (John 9:25)

To me, sin is as a 'gravity' that tugs and pulls on us constantly. It's a curse for sure! The unsaved are blinded which again is of the curse caused by sin. Once the Lord comes into your heart that one aspect of your life, that of once being blind of spiritual things, falls away and you are no longer blind to His ways. We are all still under the curse of sin but now we have a way to escape the penalty of sin.

As a new convert begins to grow, old habits fall by the wayside but satan has the ability to constantly bring up your past and he does so on a regular and recurring basis! That is normal and happens to all of us and on occasion, we do slip and fall.

To me, a Born Again Christian is to strive for an extremely 'conservative' nature in his or her spiritual life. Over the years I have grown extremely weary of this constant arguing and fighting over doctrines and everyone has scripture to back them up. The Charismatic movement is a 'doctrine' that centers around feelings and gifts that contribute very little in the big scheme of things. The Free Will folks fear the losing of their Salvation; when it comes to baptism, some Methodist Congregations sprinkle rather than immersion and the different whims of so many other groups swing this way and that way. Some believe that baptism alone is the way to Salvation. The nonsense never ends.

So how do you deal with it all? Just realize that as Salvation is a personal thing between you and Jesus, everyday life is a personal matter between you and Him. Just ask Him which way is the way He wants you to go and He will direct you. If you end up in a church that offers a tidbit of confusion..., try to understand it, take it to the Lord in Prayer but do not fret over it. Don't get caught up in satan's web and if you decide said bit of confusion to be detrimental then move on.

"Nothing is more needed among preachers today than having the courage to shake ourselves free from the trivialities that waste our time and strength, and resolve to continue steadfastly in prayer and in the ministry of the Word.” – G. Campbell Morgan

Remain steadfast in prayer and the ministry of the Word and even with this, satan will attack even more aggressively. Once you've come to the Lord satan works overtime to destroy your testimony and effectiveness. En guarde, as you're engaging the enemy!
 

HankD

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Continue in your struggle Steven, as Paul says leave the past behind you, look straight ahead unto Jesus the author and finisher of your faith.

I am praying for you as many others as well that you come forth as purified gold.
 

1689Dave

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I think a lot of the problems we have come from not knowing how to recognize God in our hearts and lives. God is Love, but we need to recognise his love and be able to separate it from our natural numan love. We naturally love ice cream, people who love us. We love those who are an extension of us like spouse and children. But even the most wicked cherish these.

It is when we love our enemies unconditionally, that we recognize Jesus in our hearts. It takes the presence of the Holy Spirit to do this. And to the extent we can do this, the more Jesus is Lord in our life.

Also giving to those who hate you and trying to make their life as good as your own provides even more evidence. Knocking yourself out in low rung dead end jobs, doing them with all of your might as unto the Lord is another line of evidence I learned to recognise. I was the best dishwasher the place had ever seen etc.

When tempted, replace hatred and foul attitude with love and you'll have plenty of evidence for your salvation.....
 
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