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Abanes' "walk with Jesus" questioned

Discussion in 'Pastoral Ministries' started by richard abanes, Aug 9, 2005.

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  1. richard abanes

    richard abanes New Member

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    In recent days, Southern Baptist pastor, Ken Silva, has lodged some very interesting accusations against me that bring into question not just my views on Rick Warren—but my entire Christian "walk with Jesus"!!!

    I have now have posted an 8-part (yes, 8-part) reply to Mr. Silva. It is lengthy, but well worth the read because it gives a perfect look into what is going on in the Body of Christ with regard to this Rick Warren issue. We are now crossing into an area where individuals like Ken Silva are declaring that people like me are simply not right with God because we do not see things their way.

    My lead off Part 1 article is at http://abanes.com/kensilva3.html

    Of particular interest, I think, is my response to Silva's unfortunate accusations about my entire "walk with Jesus" being marred by nothing more than the fact that I happen to enjoy "country music" and the band "Green Day"—I kid you not. My response to these rather odd charges can be found in the last part of the series at:

    http://abanes.com/kensilva46_65.html

    I have listed ths under Pastoral Ministries because Silva is a pastor Feedback would be appreciated—oh, and JOSEPH, it's all FREEEEE!!!!

    [:)

    R. Abanes
     
    #1 richard abanes, Aug 9, 2005
  2. webdog

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    While I HATE country music, there are some secular bands I like. To say if you listen to anything besides christian music harms your walk, is crazy. I would say secular music is ok as long as the music does not condone sin. I would have to say that Green Day would not be a choice of mine, due to some offensive, questionable lyrics. The Bible does tell us to do all things for His glory, and I don't think you can honestly say listening to Green Day does this.
     
    #2 webdog, Aug 9, 2005
  3. Dr. Bob

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    Read your material, Richard. You were gracious considering the vicious attacks made.

    We don't (can't) defend everything done in the Body, but we can stand up against lies, distortion and outright intentional errors.
     
    #3 Dr. Bob, Aug 10, 2005
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    Amen, Dr. Bob!
     
    #4 WallyGator, Aug 10, 2005
  5. richard abanes

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    HEY Dr. B.,

    THANKS!! I Want to invite you (and others) to my new blog at http://sliceoflaodiceachurch.blogspot.com/

    Feel free to post comments, observations, etc. And you can invite others as well to join in. Right now, I have a few posts up on Warren, but as the blog grows, I will be discussing all kinds of things involving my weekly activities in the world of apologetics!!

    See ya at the blog!!!

    RA
     
    #5 richard abanes, Aug 11, 2005
  6. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Richard,

    Are you bringing up the past for a reason, or did you forget the fact that I apologized to you for being wrong about you? You sure are a gracious person when you forgive someone, at least for a month or so.

    Joseph Botwinick

    [ August 17, 2005, 07:30 PM: Message edited by: Joseph_Botwinick ]
     
    #6 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 17, 2005
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    Somehow, I am really wondering if you really did forgive and forget...or was that just some cliche you say to make yourself look better?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #7 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 17, 2005
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    Come on Joseph, lighten up. Surely you see the huge smiley at the end of his post.
     
    #8 guitarpreacher, Aug 19, 2005
  9. richard abanes

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    JOSEPH: You sure are a gracious person when you forgive someone, at least for a month or so.

    RA: Joey!!! Dude!!! Lighten up, I was joking. I thought we were so cool now that i could just kid around about our run-in, which truly has been totally forgiven and let go. I was seeking to enter a new realm of interaction—friendly, joking, casual, etc. That's all. Truly. Best to ya!!!!

    RAbanes {:—)
     
    #9 richard abanes, Aug 20, 2005
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    1. I find your way of addressing me demeaning, rude and disrespectful. I am neither a Joey nor a dude (I ceased to be a dude about my freshmen year in college when I grew up and became an adult).

    2. I am not laughing. If you have truly forgiven and forgotten, then don't bring it up again.

    3. I don't know you well enough, and neither do you know me well enough to casually joke and pal around with me. In time, perhaps, but not now.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #10 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 20, 2005
  11. richard abanes

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    JOSEPH: 1. I find your way of addressing me demeaning, rude and disrespectful.
    RA: Uhm, okay. Well, sorry. I'm a bit taken aback here.

    JOSEPH: I am neither a Joey nor a dude (I ceased to be a dude about my freshmen year in college when I grew up and became an adult).
    RA: Ooooookay.

    J: 2. I am not laughing.
    RA: I see that.

    J: If you have truly forgiven and forgotten, then don't bring it up again.
    RA: okay.

    J: I don't know you well enough, and neither do you know me well enough to casually joke and pal around with me. In time, perhaps, but not now.
    RA: Yeah, sure. okay. Have a good weekend.

    RAbanes
     
    #11 richard abanes, Aug 21, 2005
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    1. I find your way of addressing me demeaning, rude and disrespectful. I am neither a Joey nor a dude (I ceased to be a dude about my freshmen year in college when I grew up and became an adult).

    2. I am not laughing. If you have truly forgiven and forgotten, then don't bring it up again.

    3. I don't know you well enough, and neither do you know me well enough to casually joke and pal around with me. In time, perhaps, but not now.

    Joseph Botwinick     </font>[/QUOTE]Man, "Joseph", I can just FEEEEL the love between two christian brothers by your tone! Get over yourself and lighten up! :rolleyes:
     
    #12 webdog, Aug 21, 2005
  13. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Check your PM's. I will not respond to your personal attack in public.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #13 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 21, 2005
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    Why not, afraid of revealing the "true you"?
     
    #14 webdog, Aug 22, 2005
  15. Brother Ian

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    Gentlemen,

    Enough is enough. I don't know either one of you, but there are many people who I am sure read these posts that may be forming a negative opinion of you because of your statements.
     
    #15 Brother Ian, Aug 24, 2005
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