Abortion In Cases of Rape

[Lev 20:10-12 NIV]

10 " 'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death. 11 " 'If a man has sexual relations with his father's wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. 12 " 'If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.​

I bet some babies might have died.
(I am not pro abortion, I am anti-over simplification).

 

If you support abortion in the case of rape you are pro abortion. If this the admin will not deal with your support of that it has lost its way.

 

Peace to you

 

All Life Threatening Complications: 1 in 100 women

• Placental abruption (requires hysterectomy to save mother)
• HELLP syndrome
• amniotic fluid embolism
• severe pre-eclampsia
  
• eclampsia (epileptic type fits)

 

True, we are not under OT law, BUT God is the same God, and it is informative that he did not add a clause to jail pregnant women until the baby was born.

Abortion was practiced in NT times, and never once is it specifically forbidden when things like hair length and the correct way to slaughter meat were discussed so seriously.

It is not true that abortion is always done for convenience. Too many women that seek abortion are mothers living in poverty that are failing to provide for the children that they already have.

Some are married women accompanied by their husbands and both are heartbroken and ashamed, not just about seeking the abortion, but their belief that they are failures as parents. Some are under the scrutiny of child services already and have even lost their children.

Some mothers are homeless and living in a shelter and have authority figures watching their every move, and see the children of other mothers being taken away. Foster care is a dangerous place to grow up. Homeless moms are desperate, not looking for convenience.

Pregnancy takes a real toll on a woman's body and on body parts that people don't like to talk about in polite company. Research on incontinence, prolapse, fistulas and bleeding is sad. Some women are already having difficulty maintaining their jobs at all, never mind their dignity. It is not convenience to not want to pee your pants or bleed through your clothes more often than you already are. Especially if you are a low income mom already labeled as legally failing to care for the children you have.

Homicide is the leading cause of death of pregnant women in some states. Until we start doing more to protect the lives of women, there are women that are terrified of being murdered by the baby daddy. Death is more than inconvenient. It is dead.
Homicide is a leading cause of pregnancy-associated death in Louisiana

Where is the line between self-defense and convenience? I don't know. But trying to shift that line so that women have more options will decrease abortions. We know that. Why isn't that a rallying cry of the churches? If churches want to start saving babies rather than control women, it is in their power to do that. Churches can save babies. But they don't.

 

That is out of context of the general beliefs of the time, and the Bible does not specifically refute this belief as would have been necessary for the people to understand that it was forbidden.

Was abortion acceptable for OT people? For NT people? At what point in history do you think abortion became wrong according to the Bible? What were the priests commanded to do with pregnant adulteresses?

 

I guess the Knitter has the right to undo his stitching.

Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect;
and in thy book all my members were written,
which in continuance were fashioned
when as yet there was none of them.
Psalm 139:16

 

Medical practice in saving lives also allows evil things to happen.
God will be the judge of it, people make many bad choices. People also make a few good choices.

In His righteous judgement, the slain of the Lord shall be many.

Isaiah 66:16
For by fire and by His sword The Lord will judge all flesh; And the slain of the Lord shall be many.

Jeremiah 25:33
And at that day the slain of the Lord shall be from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth. They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall become refuse on the ground.

 

1% of all women will encounter some "life threatening complication" during a pregnancy. In about 1 in 1000 cases, the complication will be severe enough to place the life of the mother at risk even with hospitalization and treatment. In some percentage of these cases, the ONLY medical choice will be between terminating the pregnancy or watching BOTH the mother and unborn child die.

If ALL abortion is ILLEGAL, then YOU have chosen the tragedy of TWO deaths instead of ONE.
You claim:

Reality is more subtle.
The US sees 3.75 million births per year.
That means 37,500 "life threatening complications" per year.
That means 3,750 women hospitalized for "life threatening complications" with a significant chance of dying from those complications.
If 50% of those women require an abortion to save the life of the mother (I have no idea what the actual % is), then outlawing abortion will condemn an additional 1875 women to death during pregnancy.

From your CDC statistics, the number of pregnancy related deaths is already 634 WITH abortions as a treatment option, so banning all abortions may quadruple pregnancy related mortality ... and all THOSE babies will still die in their mother's wombs.

 

Murder of the innocent is murder of the innocent. No qualifications need be added.

 

I think death penalty for adultery should still be enforced.

 

That post is stupid. No other way to put it.

 

The Romans 13 argument is that capital punishments is right and just for people doing bad things.
The sword is not wielded in vain.

4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

God's wrath will get them in the end, if man wont do it first.
If we as a society dont punish evil doers with the sword, then we are sinning against God's laws, society becomes the law breaker as well.

We in this country tolerate violent criminals. The LEFT is eliminating bail.

 

Since there is only one command and it is death for adultery, being pregnant was not an exception.
For English law it required the birth to take place then the woman was executed
The Law of God was a swift and sure punishment on evil doers. Today the punishment is still sure and certain, just not as swift, seeing if it does not happen in this life, it will at the judgement.

Deuteronomy 22, if you read the chapter, also lists exceptions for capital punishments, pregnancy is not listed as an exception

20 “But if the thing is true, and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, 21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father’s house. So you shall put away the evil from among you.

22 “If a man is found lying with a woman married to a husband, then both of them shall die—the man that lay with the woman, and the woman; so you shall put away the evil from Israel.

 

My wife and I support an organization called “Options for Women: Help for families”; A pro-life group that offers counseling, medical and financial assistance for mother and father and pre-natal for baby.

Over the last several years, just in our little area, they’ve helped several dozen women choose life and they follow up with parenting classes and care packages (food and diapers).

Peace to you