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Acrimony and vitriol: Christlike??

BobRyan

BobRyan

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OldRegular said:
How about?
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BobRyan said:
Some offer only the Bible-vacuous post after Bible-vacuous post.
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Those who want to accuse me of writing posts without any Bible details to be referenced and tested - are free to do so. I do not consider a reference to actual content saying the texts are not even being appealed to or they are set as the focus -- is the issue in John's thread.

Reporting a fact - that Bible texts are being appealed to or not - to make a point is not what I call vitriol, name calling, ad hominem, acrimony.

And if you read the thread that John of Japan posted - I don't see that getting much mention as pertaining to what he is speaking to.

Let me know if you find something to that effect.

in Christ,

Bob
 
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preacher4truth

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BobRyan said:
Those who want to accuse me of writing posts without any Bible details to be referenced and tested - are free to do so. I do not consider a reference to actual content saying the texts are not even being appealed to or they are set as the focus -- is the issue in John's thread.


Bob
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That wasn't the point of the OP. It was acrimony and vitriol and one has shown you practice it as well.
 
BobRyan

BobRyan

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Nope "Bible vacuous" means no Bible in those posts - just rant... vitriol...acrimony...diatribe.... ad hominem.

You know -- 'the usual and customary' at least for a few.
 
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thisnumbersdisconnected

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Revmitchell said:
Or intentionally avoid answering direct questions.
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BobRyan

BobRyan

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Revmitchell said:
Or intentionally avoid answering direct questions.
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One may post an unlimited number of rabbit trail off-subject questions in response to a post with Bible details they wish to avoid.

I think we all know that.

Now and then I simply point out that people are "doing that".

in Christ,

Bob
 
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Revmitchell

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BobRyan said:
One may post an unlimited number of rabbit trail off-subject questions in response to a post with Bible details they wish to avoid.

I think we all know that.

Now and then I simply point out that people are "doing that".

in Christ,

Bob
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And one can make all the excuses one can not to answer direct questions.
 
BobRyan

BobRyan

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I find it "instructive" that the "evil" of staying on the subject of the title of the thread, and paying attention to the "Bible details" specific to that subject -- never shows up as a "problem" in John of Japan's thread discussing the habits of some on the BB.
 
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BobRyan said:
I find it "instructive" that the "evil" of staying on the subject of the title of the thread, and paying attention to the "Bible details" specific to that subject -- never shows up as a "problem" in John of Japan's thread discussing the habits of some on the BB.
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Then you do not really understand that thread.
 
steaver

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Revmitchell said:
And one can make all the excuses one can not to answer direct questions.
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Of course unwillingness to answer pointed questions which directly address the OP discourse, in itself exposes the flaws of the doctrine in question.

One thing I learned early on when I began debate is that if I could not, or refused, to answer questions raised challenging my position, I lost any credibility as a 2Tim2:15 bible student.

But I did not dig my heels in and make up excuses for not giving an answer, I humbled myself and dug a little deeper into the Word and Commentaries, preparing myself to have a sound defense of my pov the next time I engaged. Or, abandoned my pov because I was shown it did not hold up to the scrutiny of questioning and real life application.

It's not good to be as the LORD said, a "stiff necked people".
 
BobRyan

BobRyan

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Revmitchell said:
Then you do not really understand that thread.
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I beg to differ - and in my case - I have "details" -- actual facts in real life.

John of Japan said:
Various people on the Internet and even here on the BB have felt free to used insulting language towards some group of people or another and then claim that Christ did so, therefore Christians can and should. They’ll say something like, “Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites, fools, blind, serpents and vipers (Matt. 23:13-33), so it’s perfectly okay to call Christians these or similar names (idiot, moron, etc.).”

I completely disagree with this. It is not okay for believers to call people names based on what Jesus said.

1. Jesus was speaking to Pharisees—lost people. He never spoke to believers this way, or even to people who claimed to be following Him but were possibly not.

2. Jesus was speaking as Lord, not as an example to believers. (See the context at the end of Matt. 22.) He said many things we cannot or should not say, such as “I came not to judge the world but to save the world” (John 12:47).

3. Jesus was also speaking as the Founder of the Jewish faith, rebuking the current leaders of that faith who had taken the religion in a terrible direction. We are not the founders of the Christian faith and have no right to insult others who claim the name of Christ.

4. When the disciples of Jesus were harsh towards people not of their group but yet who claimed His name, He rebuked them (Luke 9:49-50).

5. The practice of insulting people is rebuked by Paul in several places, such as Eph. 4:31, Col. 3:8, 1 Tim. 6:4. The Greek word used by Paul is blasfemia, which is the root word for our English word “blasphemy,” but has a wider range of meaning than the English word in that it can mean insulting another human as opposed to blaspheming God. So insulting people is wrong.

6. Christ Himself forbade calling a brother in Christ "fool" or "idiot" (raca) in Matt. 5:22b--"Whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

I’m positive there are many other relevant passages, but I’m going to stop here, because the point should be obvious.
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Thus stuck in "gaming mode" or "detail avoidance" mode may find this to be "just so many more details to be avoided" - but the true objective unbiased readers - will 'notice the point'

in Christ,

Bob
 
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