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Adam and Eve and???

Baptist4life

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I can't prove I am right & you can't prove you're right, either. The only thing I can prove, by Scripture, is GOD HATES INCEST. So I'm not gonna waste time over it.
Kinda sounds like "I'm losing here, so I'm gonna take my ball and go home". :) Or........ "I'm going right back to the KJVO forum and continue to bash them for doing exactly what I'm doing here myself"...........<---------isn't that the definition of a hypocrite?
 

robycop3

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No, I'm NOT losing. You have NOT proven me wrong.

We see the results of intermarrying in the royal families of Europe and on Pitcairn Island. the people of pitcairn are almost all descendants of the nine mutineers of the Bounty who landed there in 1790 with six tahitian men, 12 Tahitian women, & one infant girl. While those people were not related, evertually, their descendants all became related, as there were no outsiders coming to live with them, and their overall health is declining with each generation.

As for Eve being the mother of all living - my sons are Robys, who resemble me in many manners, as well as their mom who is no birth relation to me whatsoever. My grandsons are also Robys who resemble me, my wife, & their own mothers. So, technically, my wife is their "mother" and I'm technically their "father". although they have their own mothers' blood as well as mine.

So, IF - I emphasize "IF" - God created others to marry Eve's sons, she'd still be the "mother" of her grandchildren. And who's to say God didn't create other women from a part of Eve, same as He created Eve from part of Adam? AGAIN, TOTAL SPECULATION!

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so was Abraham sinning when he married his sister? (simple yes or no will do)

No.

Sarah was not his FULL sister.
 

Salty

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So, IF - I emphasize "IF" - God created others to marry Eve's sons, she'd still be the "mother" of her grandchildren. And who's to say God didn't create other women from a part of Eve, same as He created Eve from part of Adam? AGAIN, TOTAL SPECULATION!

So IF God had created others they would have been born without sin.......
 

Salty

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Salty said:
so was Abraham sinning when he married his sister? (simple yes or no will do)

No.

Sarah was not his FULL sister.

BUT marriage of half-siblings - is ILLEGAL in all States/commonwealths of the USA
 

rlvaughn

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So, IF - I emphasize "IF" - God created others to marry Eve's sons, she'd still be the "mother" of her grandchildren. And who's to say God didn't create other women from a part of Eve, same as He created Eve from part of Adam? AGAIN, TOTAL SPECULATION!
Yes, the total speculation to which you are driven when you will not accept the simple biblical record.
 

TCassidy

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Yes, the total speculation to which you are driven when you will not accept the simple biblical record.
And that is what he refuses to see. And that causes him to say the bible is wrong when it says Eve was, or became, the mother of all living. If Cain's wife, and and possibly Seth's wife, were not Eve's children then the bible is a lie.

The midrash, Genesis Rabba (בְּרֵאשִׁית רַבָּה‬, B'reshith Rabba), tells us that Cain's wife was not only his sister, but that she was the twin sister of Abel.

God did not institute any law against marrying close kin until 2,500 years later, in the time of Moses (Leviticus 18:10). Consider some of the important instances listed in the Bible: Noah’s grandchildren must have married each other (all of whom were cousins or siblings). Abraham married his half-sister Sarah (Genesis 20:12). Abraham’s son Isaac married his closer-than-a-cousin Rebecca. And Jacob married his much-closer-than-cousins Leah and Rachel. In those early years, there was no law against marrying close kin. And to invent such a law is to add to the bible, which is condemned in Rev 22:18 "I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues which are written in this book."
 

Aaron

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The idea that it was once permissible and then later God said do not do it makes God inconsistent is just false.
Like Divorce?

Polygamy?

In the Garden, when Adam and Eve were innocent, nakedness was permissible. After the Fall, it was not. In the Garden, eating animals was not permissible. After the Fall it was.
 
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You realize that prior to the Law people could eat pork and after the Law people eat pork again. The prohibition against incest has not be lifted of course but there was no such prohibition in Adam's time.

The reason our current secular society forbids incest is that genetically the offspring are far more likely to have problems. That is because of the overlapping of genetic defects. Personally I believe this has a lot to do with aging as well. So this effect was far less in Adam's time and likely prior to the flood in general.

I believe the heavy burden of proof is on the person asserting God created additional human beings. Without any proof, we would by default not believe additional human beings were created.
 

Yeshua1

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We should go with was stated to us, and not be inferring based upon it fits our preconceived beliefs in this area.
 

Yeshua1

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Like Divorce?

Polygamy?

In the Garden, when Adam and Eve were innocent, nakedness was permissible. After the Fall, it was not. In the Garden, eating animals was not permissible. After the Fall it was.
God did not view cain and his sister has beeing sinful arrangement, so why should we?
 
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