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Ann Coulter and the "Hallowed Human Shields"

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  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Hallowed Human Shields

    Libs think Hillary’s smart as a whip,
    I think she’s just a fraud.
    She couldn’t hold Ann Coulter’s slip;
    Ann’s America’s sharpest broad.
    She chews up liberal talking heads,
    With wit so quick and cunning,
    Rips Alan Colmes to bloody shreds,
    And sends Matt Lauer running.

    But now she’s really gone too far,
    All the liberal lambs are bleating;
    Is there nothing sacred she won’t tar?
    My word, she’s widow-beating!
    “Can you believe it?” reporters gasp,
    “Those are victims that she’s dissing;
    How dare that vicious rightwing asp
    Threaten widows with her hissing?”

    Our lovely Ann’s beyond the pale,
    Got the Libs all hot and fuming;
    Why, this attack is off the scale,
    Sacred cows this blonde's exhuming.
    And with every shovelful of dirt,
    We see from her indiscretion,
    How Libs exploit such human hurt,
    Then dare our right to question.

    No, we mustn’t challenge anything,
    Regardless how dumb or windy,
    From a brain-fried lefty dingaling,
    Like grave top screeching Cindy;
    Or Cleland, Murtha, and Kerry,
    Because of war, beyond aspersion,
    Or those Jersey Widows Merry,
    No, we daren’t dispute their version.

    But Ms. Ann, so lithe and lethal, went ahunting in Liberal fields,
    And sank her fangs in the haunches of their hallowed human shields.

    Russ Vaughn
     
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    How true, How true.
     
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    Might have rated a C in fifth grade.
     
  4. The Galatian

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    Doesn't scan. But it mostly rhymes. Give him a few points for actually knowing what a sonnet is, and for keeping a sonnet rhyming scheme more or less together.

    Last two lines, should be a resolution for a problem expounded in the earlier lines. And unless you pronounce it "Librul", that doesn't scan, either. Granted, a read of Vaughn's stuff suggests that he actually pronounces it that way.

    Looks like this one needs a couple more revisions to be 8th grade C material.
     
  5. carpro

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    Mr. Vaughn doesn't claim to be a great poet. He's just an old soldier who often hits the nail on the head through poetry.

    The grades he gets don't matter.

    More for your reading pleasure:

    Russ Vaughn
    2d Bn, 327th Parachute Infantry Regiment
    101st Airborne Division
    Vietnam 65-66

    The Eagle and the Serpents

    Such discord now ‘tween you and us,
    Mainstream Media and populace:
    You envenom all that we hold dear,
    And revel in those things we fear.
    You denigrate our national pride
    Taking always now the others’ side.
    A Media mamba, a poisonous pest
    That lurks within our Eagle’s nest.

    SNIP

    Can you Media serpents win this fight?
    Bring our Eagle down from newfound height?
    No longer now caged up by you,
    Only negative news to shape our view.
    The Internet set our Eagle free,
    Now we can hear, now we can see.
    A Mainstream Media hissing lies,
    Spitting blinding venom in our eyes.

    Our Eagle’s spied you false purveyors,
    Just negative fools and foul naysayers.
    The Eagle knows now he is right,
    That he’s with honor in this fight.
    And despite your biting fanged attacks,
    He’ll land upon your serpent backs;
    An image that should give you pause:
    A thrashing snake in Eagle’s claws.
     
  6. The Galatian

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    That's obvious. He's not even a competent middle-school poet. He's a pretentious boob, who thinks that if he puts his opinions in rhyme, they are somehow less silly.

    (Vaughn presents the Mexican national symbol in rhyme)

    Oh, a patriot, too. Eagle with a Serpent in it's claws.

    Wrong country.

    Or maybe not. The media is a lot less free in Mexico than it is here. Is that what he's trying to tell us?
     
  7. carpro

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    I got it.

    Don't like the message. Shoot the messenger.

    I have an idea. Why don't you write us a poem that answers the assertions he made in his poems?

    You're just bound to be able to do that , you being so critical of his style and technique and all.:thumbs:
     
  8. The Galatian

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    Nope. That's the neocon philosophy. It should be "don't like the message, criticize the guy to wrote it."

    Hmm... maybe.

    When I was a young fellow, I was almost entirely interested in the hard sciences, and had little interest in the humanities.

    One year, when I was older, for my wife's birthday, I decided to learn how to write a proper Elizabethian Sonnet, and I wrote one for her. I don't Know how good it is, but she treasures it.

    I'm no Shakespear, but I'll try. Meantime, have a limerick:

    A bitter old fellow named Russ
    'bout the media, whined like a wuss
    "They seldom agree
    With that great genius (me)
    Which means that they hate all of us."

    It's not a sonnet, but then it rhymes and scans.
     
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    Now's my chance to make fun of your abilities as a poet purely because I don't like what you have to say, but I won't.

    The poetry wasn't all that great, but you got your point across.

    So does Russ.:thumbs:
     
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    Complaining that a limerick isn't great poetry is like criticizing a corndog stand for not being 4 star restaurant.

    It was a successful limerick - it rhymed, it scanned and it was funny. It even had a tiny touch of bawdiness ('wuss').

    Russ might get his point across, but it's tedious and clumbsy.
     
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    But then, of course, you don't like his message.:smilewinkgrin:

    So, like Galation, since you don't like his message, you have a tendency to attack the messenger without addressing his salient point, whatever it happens to be.
     
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    I'd give an A in high school
     
  13. Daisy

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    Um, carpro, where exactly did I attack the messenger? You're just making stuff up again, trying to rouse the rabble just like your poet fellow.

    We've discussed the "message" ad nauseum - Ann's rilly kewl cause she riles the liberals - so that it's not even interesting. The only new thing here is that the format is badly written doggerel, so that has been the focus of the commentary. Now it seems you are trying to make this about the personalities of your fellow posters.

    If you have some point you wish to make about the poem or its content, why don't you?
     
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    umm..let's see.

    He's "tedious", he's "clumsy" and his poetry is "badly written doggerel".

    I haven't seen you address his message at all.

    Since you don't like his message, you attack him and his style instead of the point he made. You just proved it.
     
  15. Daisy

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    I thought I'd already posted a reply to this, but I don't see it...

    No, carpro, I said "it" was tedious and clumsy, not "he" - "it" being the poem, not the poet.

    And so it is. Critiquing the poem is not attacking the poet.

    Do a forum search on "Coulter".

    I have not attacked him as a person, just his meager skill as a poet. Since this poem is the OP, it should be fair game for comment, don't you think?

    What is his message and what is yours in posting his twaddle?

    His message seems to be that it is great fun to be nasty towards Democrats and liberals, using Coulter as his nominal subject. You seem to be in a snit because no one took the bait, so you've made this a discussion of personalities of the posters.
     
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    You are splitting hairs and still not addressing his salient point.

    I agree with him. That's why I posted it and he makes our point very well.

    Why are you afraid to deal with the subject?
     
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    No hairs have been split. Attacking the form of the message is simply NOT attacking the messenger. You've wrongly accused me and the Barbarian.

    That it's more fun to ridicule those with whom you disagree than to post anything of substance?

    I'm not and I have.
     
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    You are and you haven't.

    You've taken the usual liberal tactic of duck, dodge,and weave.
     
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    Accusations without substance.

    This is what you want to discuss - demeaning liberals. It's a trollish little game.
     
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    OK, Daisy. Since you just absolutely refuse to talk about Russ's main point, I'll try again.

    Russ:

    "But Ms. Ann, so lithe and lethal, went ahunting in Liberal fields,
    And sank her fangs in the haunches of their hallowed human shields."


    I'll give you a little help.


    Mary Matalin:

    "I take her larger point that in the absence of being able to make persuasive arguments, you(liberals) roll out messengers that can't be -- you know, it's politically incorrect to argue with."

    "This is the point. This is complete the point she's making. These lefty crazy people go around calling us (conservatives) extra chromosome and Hitlers and Nazis and everything and nobody says anything. She calls somebody a harpy and you'd think that the whole world was on fire."

    Care to comment on something besides Mr. Vaughn's skill as a poet?
     
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