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Another Ferguson shooting

church mouse guy

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carpro

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That shooting was not in Ferguson but somewhere else in the St. Louis area. Your source is misleading. Do you think that the violence will spread to other parts of the country?

As noted in another thread about the St. Louis shooting...

Suicide by cop.

Completely justifiable shooting.
 

Judith

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That shooting was not in Ferguson but somewhere else in the St. Louis area. Your source is misleading. Do you think that the violence will spread to other parts of the country?

It is 4 miles from the other shooting but that has nothing to do with what took place.
 

Judith

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As noted in another thread about the St. Louis shooting...

Suicide by cop.

Completely justifiable shooting.
Killing another human being is never justified when you have at your disposal another means to apprehend. Why wasn't he tased first?
 

carpro

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It is 4 miles from the other shooting but that has nothing to do with what took place.

The writer, by using the false title, hoped to get unwarranted attention to a completely justifiable shooting. He's just trying to fan the flames of racial tensions in the area.

You fell for it.
 

carpro

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Killing another human being is never justified when you have at your disposal another means to apprehend. Why wasn't he tased first?

Did you bother to read your source article?

“Certainly a Taser is an option that’s available to the officers, but Tasers aren’t 100 percent. So you’ve got an individual with a knife who’s moving towards you, not listening to any verbal commands, continues, says, ‘shoot me now, kill me now.’ Tasers aren’t 100 percent. if that Taser misses, that [individual] continues on and hurts an officer. In a lethal situation, they used lethal force.”
 
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church mouse guy

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It is 4 miles from the other shooting but that has nothing to do with what took place.

That is not what I said. I said that it was not in Ferguson as you said and your source said. Apparently it was in the city of St. Louis. So the problem on the second shooting is St. Louis. Do you think that the violence will spread to other parts of the country?
 

Sapper Woody

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Killing another human being is never justified when you have at your disposal another means to apprehend. Why wasn't he tased first?

I can answer that real easily. When someone is reported to have a lethal weapon, you must be able to respond lethally. The man in this instance, they already knew he had a knife, and so they had to respond with the ability to neutralize the threat, in this case, with their weapons. If you watched the video, you know that the police would not have had time to holster their weapons, pull out their tazer, and taze him.

They gave him ample opportunity to obey their commands. They told him to drop the knife, and they told him to stop moving towards them. He did not comply. When he was close enough to where he could cause lethal damage to them with a quick jump, they had no choice but to shoot him.

He made the decision. It's called Escalation of Force. You make them show whether or not they have hostile intent, which he clearly showed. First, you shout to get them to stop. Failing that, you show intent to shoot, such as saying "I will shoot", or pulling out your weapon if it's not already out. Finally, if the person is still in non-compliance, they have shown that they have hostile intent, and you neutralize the threat with lethal force.

They did everything by the book. This was a textbook case of everything done right.
 

righteousdude2

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Great question. OP, please tell us....

I have to ask both "victims" why didn't they just obey the police officer.....


It that were you, and a gun was pointed at you, would you NOT decide to obey the order? In fact, would you have pushed some one with a holstered weapon, to remove that weapon and aim it at you?

If you don't answer "no" to that than you are not as rational as I give you credit for.
 
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