Answering questions from my last thread...

I just got back from Phoenix. The purpose of this thread will be to answer all of the questions that were asked of me in my last thread. I will do my best to answer them, however not all at once. Much like Pastor Bob said, this is not something I am constantly doing. C4K would like his question answered as it seems he doesn't believe any one has answered the query. I don't know that to be true, but either way I will answer him according to what I believe is correct.


English paragraph:

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Hello, my name is Pastor Bob. This is a very important question to consider. Is it permissible to translate the Bible from another translation or is it necessary to refer back to the original languages? I believe that problems would arise unless the translations all originate from the same source. Otherwise, it would not take long for translations to imerge that are very much different.
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Above paragraph translated into Spanish:

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Hola, mi nombre es Pastor Bob. Esto es una pregunta muy importante a considerar. ¿Es permitido traducir la biblia de otra traducción o es necesario referirse de nuevo a las idiomas originales? Creo que se presentarían los problemas a menos que sean las traducciones originen de la misma fuente. Si no, no duraría para la traducción al imerge que es mucho diferente.
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Above Spanish translation re-translated back into English:

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Hello, my name is Bob Shepherd. This is a question very important to consider. It is allowed to translate the bible of another translation or is necessary to talk about again to the original languages? I believe that the problems would appear unless they are the translations originate of the same source. If no, it would not last for the translation to imerge that it is much different.
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My point is this, if I want Christians in other nations to know the Word of God as I know it, then our translations must come from a common source so they all say the same thing.

 

Although not idiomatic, Pastor Bob's English/Spanish/English translation is correct......

 

I'm game...
Go ahead and offer proof.....If you're correct I'll admit it.
Just make sure (please) that I understand your premise.

 

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posted March 03, 2005 03:21 PM
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I will hold to the belief that apart from man's interpretation and awareness of context, then it would be virtually impossible to translate from one language to another to another and so on. I'll stand by my example of literal interpretation.

Your comments earlier in this thread led me to believe that you believe translating is an exact science with no need for interpretation. Perhaps you would explain these words of yours?

 

The above posts are "copy and Paste" from different people. The following is my answer....

 

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posted March 04, 2005 11:16 AM
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I have seen it all... I think. LOL OK first of let me fix one problem at a time, going back to the English to Spanish to English {mis}translation,
A.Pastor Bob.
#1.The word "pastor" is perfectly translated into spanish as "pastor" {with a different pro.}. Get your dictionary. It is right. In order to Place the word and all its meaning into Spanish you must study the definitions of both of the words both in English and Spanish. You then come to a perfect UNDERSTANDING PLEASE SEE LUKE 1:3. I will speak about that later.

#2. After you have looked up both words and fully Understand BOTH WORDS and everything they mean, you then can say that the word pastor is Translated pastor {with a different pron.}

#3.Therefore because you fully understand the word pastor in English and the word pastor {see above} in Spanish- you can say they both are 2 different symbols and sounds to express the same thing or idea.

#4. Due to the fact that now has been established, you can now say,"I have perfect UNDERSTANDING OF THESE TWO WORDS.

#5.You must also consider the context. Failing to do that leads to the ludicrous {mis}translation that "pastor Bob" means Bob Shepherd. Also in the English or in Spanish You will see that "pastor" is not capital. To say that "pastor" is a name is a horrendous error simply due the way a name is written in either language. Even if it were a name-the name should have been Shepherd Bob.LOL


#6.That brings me to a simple formula>>>>>>


A=B


A=pastor in english
B=pastor in spanish{see above}

#7.To say that "pastor Bob" translates "Bob Shepherd" fails to follow any form of logic.
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That is just the start, yet it proves the point that this post offered as proof of an inability to translate from one language to another-fails.


I will try to answer as many as I can. Thanks

AZGUITARIST.