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Any opposition to Odrama labeled as "Extremism"

Revmitchell

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It seems the political left has begun a new campaign to defeat opposition by making themselves victims or potential victims of "extremism". The Odrama admin recently put out an unnecessary report that suggests those who are opposed to unconstitutional taxes, abortion, and several other positions of the admin may be potential terrorists. Yet in the very same report it states "The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence". Further it suggests that those on the right are racist and would like to do Odrama harm because he is the "first African American president".

It is clear and evident that this is an attempt to place any opposition to Odrama in the same category as terrorists. Other extreme left wing organizations like media matters has taken up the banner of political fear mongering . Recently it placed any opposition to the Odrama admin as violent rhetoric.

CNN's Rick Sanchez recently blamed the shooting of three police officers on Fox News: "That weekend tragedy involves a man who allegedly shot and killed three police officers in cold blood. Why? Because he was convinced, after no doubt watching Fox News and listening to right-wing radio, that quote, 'Our rights were being infringed upon.'"

Really? When lefties were crying out that their rights were being infringed upon because of the Patriot Act did these same people attempt to place them in the context of shooters or terrorists? Are they willing to include William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright in these categories? How about Congressman John Murtha or John Kerry who said our troops were breaking into homes in the middle of the night and terrorizing Iraqi's?

Keith Olberman, MSNBC's chief nut job, recently tried to place Michele Bachmann's comments on the admins economic policies in a similar light when she called for an "orderly revolution" by suggesting that "she may have broken several serious laws,".


Add to that I have seen it on this board, where criticisms of Odrama have been placed in the context of possibly inciting extremists and could be investigated by the government.

This is nothing but hypocritical political tactics used to squelch opposition. The extreme left work tirelessly both on politics, in the media, and on this board to stop criticism of the current admin. It is evident without a shred of doubt that the left does not actually believe in tolerance or the free and open market of ideas. There is also no doubt that somewhere in Kenya a village is missing their idiot.
 
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JustChristian

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Yep. And we will soon see a few posts on this thread that prove your point.....

Not from me. This is a waste of time. Continue to heckle the President and call him a communist, fascist, Obama Rex, the messiah, etc. You're only showing your lack of support for American democracy.
 

ReformedBaptist

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Not from me. This is a waste of time. Continue to heckle the President and call him a communist, fascist, Obama Rex, the messiah, etc. You're only showing your lack of support for American democracy.

By Obama's actions he doesn't act like American democracy. He is more socialist/communist, and takes actions that infringe individual freedom and state's rights.

Think this view is some sort of lunatic fringe? Tell that to the 20+ states passing and forming declarations of their sovereignty.
 

rbell

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Not from me. This is a waste of time. Continue to heckle the President and call him a communist, fascist, Obama Rex, the messiah, etc. You're only showing your lack of support for American democracy.

Pssst: JC, we're not a democracy.

BTW...I've shown via definition that Obama has fascist tendencies (Fascism: The system of government whereby industries are privately owned, but the production process is controlled by government). What have you done to show I'm wrong?

*crickets*
 

ReformedBaptist

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Pssst: JC, we're not a democracy.

BTW...I've shown via definition that Obama has fascist tendencies (Fascism: The system of government whereby industries are privately owned, but the production process is controlled by government). What have you done to show I'm wrong?

*crickets*

His repsonse reminds me of the rhetoric under Hitler. Anyone that spoke against the state was considered unpatriotic.
 

Revmitchell

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What is unpatriotic is taxing in an unconstitutional manner, trying to move this country to the left, considering foreign law in our court systems, pushing marxist policies, and calling Obama administration dissenters as not supporting American Democracy.
 
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Pssst: JC, we're not a democracy.

BTW...I've shown via definition that Obama has fascist tendencies (Fascism: The system of government whereby industries are privately owned, but the production process is controlled by government). What have you done to show I'm wrong?

*crickets*
Don't expect JC to respond. He can't show you wrong. All he can do is to belittle those who disagree with Obama and his fascio/socialist policies. I don't know if fascio/socialist is a word, but it seems to describe the current administration.
 

donnA

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so, anyone who opposes an anti constitution, pro socialist/communist president is a terrorist, lol
what does that make JC?
 

LeBuick

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Further it suggests that those on the right are racist and would like to do Odrama harm because he is the "first African American president".

When you make a picture of Obama with exaggerated lips and ears, you don't find that to be racist?

It is clear and evident that this is an attempt to place any opposition to Odrama in the same category as terrorists. Other extreme left wing organizations like media matters has taken up the banner of political fear mongering . Recently it placed any opposition to the Odrama admin as violent rhetoric.

I personally don't think it is the opposition to Obama that is causing the terrorist title, it is probably the signs that say hang him.

Really? When lefties were crying out that their rights were being infringed upon because of the Patriot Act did these same people attempt to place them in the context of shooters or terrorists?

Warrant-less wire taps are infringing on our privacy and freedoms.

Are they willing to include William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright in these categories?

These two are not leaders or symbols of the left so why would they.

How about Congressman John Murtha or John Kerry who said our troops were breaking into homes in the middle of the night and terrorizing Iraqi's?

This was true, we did kick in doors in the middle of the night. Why is it offensive to admit to the truth?

This is nothing but hypocritical political tactics used to squelch opposition. The extreme left work tirelessly both on politics, in the media, and on this board to stop criticism of the current admin. It is evident without a shred of doubt that the left does not actually believe in tolerance or the free and open market of ideas. There is also no doubt that somewhere in Kenya a village is missing their idiot.

The right is holding tea parties in protest to their government actions and you say the left is intolerant? Then you write "There is also no doubt that somewhere in Kenya a village is missing their idiot". Looks to me like both sides is intolerant.

Because the lefts ideas are different from the right they call them every kind of ...ist and accuse them of ...ism there is.
 

Palatka51

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A patriot.

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Revmitchell

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When you make a picture of Obama with exaggerated lips and ears, you don't find that to be racist?

No one brought up this but you. What they did bring up was those who oppose abortion, oppose federal intrusion on states rights etc., all the general principles the right stands for. So you have now set up a straw man.



I personally don't think it is the opposition to Obama that is causing the terrorist title, it is probably the signs that say hang him.

Where in the report did they even mention this. Lets stick with the report instead of personal speculation. Of course this completely ignores the point you quoted.



Warrant-less wire taps are infringing on our privacy and freedoms.

Who is our and how many of them are there? And just what freedom have you personally lost? And again you sidestepped the post you quoted.



These two are not leaders or symbols of the left so why would they.

Says you, we know better. But this is yet another side stepping of the point you quoted.



This was true, we did kick in doors in the middle of the night. Why is it offensive to admit to the truth?

Really we needlessly kicked in doors and terrorized innocent Iraqi's? This statement was made in an attempt to demonize our troops, is that your intent? A rather disgusting response. Especially inlight of the fact that Murtha was proven a liar.



The right is holding tea parties in protest to their government actions and you say the left is intolerant? Then you write "There is also no doubt that somewhere in Kenya a village is missing their idiot". Looks to me like both sides is intolerant.

Apparently you do not understand the concept of intolerance. Study up.

Because the lefts ideas are different from the right they call them every kind of ...ist and accuse them of ...ism there is.

When those ideas get placed on a terrorist warning list come back and talk to me. This report beside being illegal is an attempt to shut down the opposition and dissent.
 

rbell

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The right is holding tea parties in protest to their government actions and you say the left is intolerant?

So protest = intolerance? Your meds aren't working.

Maybe some of us just appreciate liberty more than you do.

It seems to me that you are comfortable having government give us the rights they think you need. There are many of us who understand it is God who endows us with these inalienable rights...and it is not government's place to act as if they are the bestowers of such.

I simply think you don't appreciate liberty enough.
 

donnA

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When you make a picture of Obama with exaggerated lips and ears, you don't find that to be racist?
no, not when it's done because he's president and not becasue he's half black, wa sit racist when people did it with the past presidents? If not, then ti isn't now either.

The right is holding tea parties in protest to their government actions
people in this country still have the right and freedom to do so, not long with obama around though.

Because the lefts ideas are different from the right they call them every kind of ...ist and accuse them of ...ism there is.
if it looks like a duck.....
 

donnA

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Lets see, I don't believe it's ok to murder babies, I don't believe homosexuality is alright that it is indeed immoral(according to God) which makes gay marriage wrong, I don't believe you solve debt by making more debt so much debt you can't pay for it, I don't believe it's alright to tax my grandchildren and make them pay for obama's lack of expereince and crazed maniac spending, I do not believe socialism and communism are acceptable we've seen their failure world over, and the virtual enslavement of the peoples in those countries, I do believe in the freedoms of this country, the constution which obama thinks needs to be rewritten, and who according to everything we keep seeing about him, wants to deprive us of those constutional freedoms. I believe in worshiping the one true God of the bible, and not making obama out to be a messiah who can do no wrong, and is 'crucified' for doing no wrong (yes, we've seen this said on this board), making him another 'god' above the true God(didn't God warn against this).
So if that makes me a terrorist, then so be it. I stand a terrorist becasue I believe in God and His principles, and reject false messiahs.
 

LeBuick

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So protest = intolerance? Your meds aren't working.

Maybe some of us just appreciate liberty more than you do.

It seems to me that you are comfortable having government give us the rights they think you need. There are many of us who understand it is God who endows us with these inalienable rights...and it is not government's place to act as if they are the bestowers of such.

I simply think you don't appreciate liberty enough.

I say we elect official then support the winner. That would be tolerant in my book. When you say you're leaving the country because your guy lost, I would say that is intolerant.

Protesting is a right... But you must admit one who is accepting or tolerant wouldn't protest. That is all I was saying.
 

LeBuick

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No one brought up this but you. What they did bring up was those who oppose abortion, oppose federal intrusion on states rights etc., all the general principles the right stands for. So you have now set up a straw man.

Then what does a poster with exaggerated lips and ears have to do with abortion and intrusion? What did the sign that said he should be hanged have to do with abortion and intrusion?


Who is our and how many of them are there? And just what freedom have you personally lost? And again you sidestepped the post you quoted.

It only takes one and I believe it's called Habeas corpus.


Really we needlessly kicked in doors and terrorized innocent Iraqi's? This statement was made in an attempt to demonize our troops, is that your intent? A rather disgusting response. Especially inlight of the fact that Murtha was proven a liar.

I didn't say needlessly you added that word. And, if we kick in a door and find no insurgents, was there a need to kick in that door? I have no problem admitting what we did and fully support our troops for doing it. It was war and things happen in war for various reasons. Innocent people die in war which can never be described as "right" but is a truth we have to accept.

Apparently you do not understand the concept of intolerance. Study up.

According to Webster... Unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs

When those ideas get placed on a terrorist warning list come back and talk to me. This report beside being illegal is an attempt to shut down the opposition and dissent.

I think it succeeded in taking the news, spot light and focus off the tea parties... I think you guys met your match with Obama. He got you again.
 
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