• Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Apostle Peter's tomb controversy.

37818

Well-Known Member
Rpme or Jerusalem?


Jerusalem ossuaries​

edit

In 1953, two Franciscan friars discovered hundreds of 1st century ossuaries stored in a cave on the Mount of Olives near Jerusalem. The archaeologists claimed to have discovered the earliest physical evidence of a Christian community in Jerusalem, and that some of the ossuaries were inscribed with names congruent with many commonly found in the Bible; the name inscribed on one ossuary, for instance, was interpreted as reading 'Shimon Bar Yonah' (שמעון בר יונה, "Simon, the Son of Jonah").[38] However, several scholars, both Protestant and Catholic, disputed that the tomb belonged to Peter, one of the reasons being that there was no inscription referring to him as 'Cefa' (ܟܹ݁ܐܦ݂ܵܐ) or "Peter".[39] Dr. Stephen Pfann of the University of the Holy Land says the inscription actually reads as 'Shimon Barzillai', the Barzillai being a famous family in Jerusalem.[40] The 43 inscriptions discovered in the Dominus Flevit cemetery between May 1953 and June 1955 were published with photographs by P. B. Bagatti and J. T. Milik in 1958.[41]
 
Last edited:

Cathode

Well-Known Member
Not much of a controversy. 5% of the population in Israel at the time its reckoned were called John and Simon was also a popular name.

Simon the Zealot, Simon the Pharisee, Simon the leper, Simon of Cyrene, Simon the magician, Simon Iscariot.
All names from the popular Simeon name.

Besides the early Christians tell us Peter and Paul died under Nero in Rome, where both their tombs are to this day.

Go to Israel today and ask if there are any Yoni’s or Shimon’s around.
 

37818

Well-Known Member
Not much of a controversy. 5% of the population in Israel at the time its reckoned were called John and Simon was also a popular name.

Simon the Zealot, Simon the Pharisee, Simon the leper, Simon of Cyrene, Simon the magician, Simon Iscariot.
All names from the popular Simeon name.

Besides the early Christians tell us Peter and Paul died under Nero in Rome, where both their tombs are to this day.

Go to Israel today and ask if there are any Yoni’s or Shimon’s around.
Well, since 1953 the find has been believed by some, to actually be the Apostle's.
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
I’m a connoisseur of human folly, and what I find fascinating is people’s ability to be at once obstinately ignorant and at the same time unquestioningly gullible.

They will ignore all Christian history and the archeology discovered in Rome, and on the flimsiest evidence assert a certainty to warm their prejudice.

As the Franciscan monk told the guy, it’s a very common name. You don’t even need to go to Israel to see grave stones inscribed with Simon son of John, just go to any secular cemetery today and you see countless examples.

The Indiana Jonesish tone of the guy, doors creaking, he really is hamming up his own story.
The book’s author asserting that all the Franciscans agreed, and that Pope was told and said to keep it secret, is contradicted by the second video.

The Franciscan monk didn’t agree that it was Peter and if the Pope told people to keep it a secret, why would they openly show anyone out the blue like this guy off the street who didn’t even bother to make an appointment.
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
The biggest giveaway that it isn’t Peters grave, is there wasn’t a dirty great Catholic Basilica built on top of it called Saint Peter’s Basilica.
 
Top