apparel

Apparel

Katastole: primarily a garment let down; hence dress, attire, in general (cp. stole, a loose outer garment worn by kings and persons of rank,—Eng., stole)

Stole: denotes any stately robe, a long garment reaching to the feet or with a train behind.

These definitions are from An Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words by Dr.'s Vine, Unger and White.

I counted no less than eight different Greek words used to describe clothing in the New Testament. I will post the rest of them in detail tomorrow or Tuesday.

 

I remembered reading sometime ago about men in the bible times,and their clothing,(similar to wmen's clothing in that they appeared as our dresses today do),a dn that when men went out to the field, or into battle thay would pull thier long robe up above their 'belt' so that it hung above the waste, and that the bottom edge of it came to mid thigh(or perphaps higher, depended on the man pulling it up), so that men had freedom of movement to work or run and fight in battle. Which if anyting tell us not to wear short dress, which I think we've all got down pat, I don't think any of us want to do that anyway. Another thing it is telling us(if you read my post o the other thread) is that the woman is not to pull up her garmat as one going into battle, a warrior, or soldier.
Since men's and women's clothing were so very similar in the bible, and yu isist that women are to wear long flowing dresses, then I challenge yu to dress in what biblical men wore. if you really want to be biblical that is, see as how pabts that you wear did not exsist when scripture was written.

 

Good post Helen, I didn't think to investigate the word apprael more. Looks like we got the topic covered.

 

Maybe because it quieted or appeased or put down the lust of eyes. Adam Clarke describes the style of dress perfectly. Note his mention of what would be equal to our current slit dress craze.

1 Timothy 2:9

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

[In like manner also] That is, he wills or commands what follows, as he had commanded what went before.
[That women adorn themselves] Kai (grk 2532) tas (grk 3588) gunaikas (grk 1135) en (grk 1722) katastolee (grk 2689) kosmioo (grk 2887). The apostle seems to refer here to different parts of the Grecian and Roman dress. The stolee (grk 4749), stola, seems to have been originally very simple. It was a long piece of cloth, doubled in the middle, and sewed up on both sides, having room only for the arms; at the top, a piece was cut out, or a slit made, through which the head passed. It hung down to the feet, both before and behind, and was girded with the zona round the body, just under the breasts. It was sometimes made with, sometimes without, sleeves; and, that it might sit the better, it was gathered on each shoulder with a band or buckle. Some of the Greek women wore them open on each side, from the bottom up above the knee, so as to discover a part of the thigh. These were termed phainomeerides, showers (discoverers) of the thigh; but it was, in general, only young girls or immodest women who wore them thus.
The katastolee (grk 2689) seems to have been the same as the pallium or mantle, which, being made nearly in the form of the stola, hung down to the waist, both in back and front, was gathered on the shoulder with a band or buckle, had a hole or slit at top for the head to pass through, and hung loosely over the stola, without being confined by the zona or girdle. Representations of these dresses may be seen in LEN'S Costume des Peuples de l'Antiquite, fig. 11, 12, 13, and 16. A more modest and becoming dress than the Grecian was never invented; it was, in a great measure, revived in England about the year 1805, and in it, simplicity, decency, and elegance were united; but it soon gave place to another mode, in which frippery and nonsense once more prevailed. It was too rational to last long; and too much like religious simplicity to be suffered in a land of shadows, and a world of painted outsides.
(from Adam Clarke Commentary)

 

I refuse to allow this to go any further down the path to anger that these topics have traveled before. Please make certain of my intent to keep this and the other threads concerning clothing clean. Whatever happened before has no bearing here, please don't let old problems surface. Play nice or don't play at all.

Murph

 

Helen, the word modest means "well-ordered." The word apparel means "let-down." People did wear pants millennia ago.

The idea that no one wore pants in Biblical times is based on what we have seen in movies and art. Mummies on the order of three thousand years old have been discovered with pants. This link does not show them, but I saw the NOVA documentary and attest that men and women were in pants.

Why do we assume pants are a new thing?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/chinamum/taklamakan.html

Again, not true. According to Dr.'s Unger and White, the OT term for Garment is "beged":

Also in the New Testament:

Undergarments are not a new innovation. I can't imagine anyone wanting to engage in hard manual labor, as did Adam and Eve, without support.

 

As promised, here are the authoritative dictionary definitions of the Greek terms for clothing.

http://www.thriftyplanet.net/~pilgrim/Vines.html

 

thanks for your research.

 

From the transcript of the NOVA Documentary:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2502chinamum.html

Remember, these mummies are over 3,000 years old.

[ March 25, 2003, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2502chinamum.html

Remember, these mummies are over 3,000 years old. </font>[/QUOTE]Aaron, it was all a college kid hoax. Did you see the one with the cigarette where its mouth would have been?

Just kidding.

 

I don't get the joke, but I laughed anyway.