Are Catholics Christian?

I cannot believe that 62% of "Christians" Believe that you can trust in Water baptism and Wafers for salvation and still be saved. Scary, very scary.

 

Some people, who are former Baptist members and got saved through witnessing, joined a Roman Catholic Church because of getting married to Catholic members.

Some people, who are not saved and were former Roman Catholic Church, joined a Baptist church. Maybe they are Christians or not.

Only God knows their heart.

 

No denomination can save anyone. Likewise, no denomination can send anyone to hell.

However, You can Rightly say that no Catholic is saved, much less Christian (there is a difference)

The reason being as follows. The Catholic teaching concerning salvation is that a person must be a member of the Catholic institution, Baptised (by sprinkling) in the Catholic institution and partake in the sacriments performed by the Catholic institution.

If you are trusting these things for salvation, you are NOT SAVED.

If you are not trusting these things for salvation, you ARE NOT CATHOLIC.

Therefore a Catholic cannot be saved.

 

I agree with Scarlett.

 

One's demonational affiliation has no bearing on salvation, nor should it be a litmus test for presuming one's salvation.

Christians are as discriminintory as anyone else. We will always like to believe that people of our own denomination are more likely to be saved than people who don't. A Baptist will always tend to believe that a Baptist is more likely to be saved than a non-baptist. It's normal sinful human nature to believe like this.

 

My neighbor is Roman Catholic. He is a Eucharistic Deacon, and as a former high school teacher heads the CCD program of his church. We have many conversations in the driveway, and we both use the same biblical references and use the same words and expressions of faith when we discuss spiritual issues. If I didn't know where he is coming from as a Roman Catholic, however, I would conclude that he is saved. One day as we finished one of many conversations, he said, "Well- we can only hope for heaven when our time comes." He wasn't talking about the "Blessed Hope" of assurance, but the uncertainty of the results of good works and the sacraments.

 

I have known many Roman Catholics that are saved.
Just because they did not go through the "Yes I see that Hand" method does not mean that they are not saved.
If they believe in their heart and confess with their mouth that Jesus is th Christ and
If they repent and are baptized they are saved.
Early Baptist poured water over ones head for Baptism and some Baptist still do this.
Methodist sprinkle. Do you believe that John and Charles Wesley and Isaac Watts were not saved?
If so then rip their songs out of your hymnbook.

 

I have known many Roman Catholics that are saved.
Just because they did not go through the "Yes I see that Hand" method does not mean that they are not saved.
If they believe in their heart and confess with their mouth that Jesus is th Christ and
If they repent and are baptized they are saved.
Early Baptist poured water over ones head for Baptism and some Baptist still do this.
Methodist sprinkle. Do you believe that John and Charles Wesley and Isaac Watts were not saved?
If so then rip their songs out of your hymnbook. </font>[/QUOTE]Since when was baptism part of salvation? I thought the bible said
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. KJB

 

Though now SBC, I got saved when I was a Catholic. Many people here got saved when they were Catholic. So that in and of itself prove wrong the statement that a catholic cannot get saved.

 

Who said Catholics can't get saved?

 

I agree with Scarlett's reply.

 

I have known many Roman Catholics that are saved.
Just because they did not go through the "Yes I see that Hand" method does not mean that they are not saved.
If they believe in their heart and confess with their mouth that Jesus is th Christ and
If they repent and are baptized they are saved.
Early Baptist poured water over ones head for Baptism and some Baptist still do this.
Methodist sprinkle. Do you believe that John and Charles Wesley and Isaac Watts were not saved?
If so then rip their songs out of your hymnbook. </font>[/QUOTE]Since when was baptism part of salvation? I thought the bible said
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. KJB </font>[/QUOTE]The Bible says in Acts 2:38 When Peter was Ask , "What Must I do to be saved?"
1. repent
2. be baptized

So to answer your question , "since when was baptism a (part) of Salvation" I will tell you when. It was 50 days after The rescurrection of our savior, Jesus Christ.

[ August 31, 2005, 10:10 PM: Message edited by: atestring ]

 

Catholics CAN be Christians just like some Baptists may NOT be...

 

So true.

 

atestring,

a. you are either

1. intentionaly lieing
or
2. you haven't spent ten minutes researching what you believe

"Repent and be baptized" was not a reply to the query: "what Must I do to be saved?". The verse actualy says:

Salvation is a heart condition. (Rom. 10:10) When they heard the Word preached, they recieved it.

You do not have to pray a "sinner's prayer" to be saved. all you have to do is realize you are a sinner and trust the Lord Jesus Christ to save you.

So, when "they heard this" (the word preached) and were "pricked in thier heart" (recieved the message and were saved) they asked Peter what to do. Salvation was not the question.

So Peter tells them to be baptized for the remission of sins.

Now if a man has to do comunity service for the act of arson, is the point of his comunity service to give him an avenue to burn a house down?... Think hard!...

a[ ] Yes
b[*] No
c[ ] Undecided

If you said b (no) you're absolutely right!!!

The man doing the service for the act of arson is doing it because he has already burnt down a house. The same way that a man who is being baptized for the remission of sins has already had his sins remited.

Note that the goal is not salvation. The goal is the gift of the Holy Ghost (not tongues mind you), which was not recieved at salvation during the dispensation that acts was written in. Which brings us to:

B. The book of Acts is a transitional book written to the jews, to bring the Jews into the new testament.

Note the operative words:

Transitional, meaning things are changing. You never see one mention of anyone being baptized in water after Acts.

Jews, meaning this passage does not, has never and will never apply to a single gentile.

 

How can someone be Christian without being saved?