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Are IFB churches unbiblical?

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  1. seekingthetruth

    seekingthetruth New Member

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    Luke2427 said on another thread that IFB churches are unbiblical and in darkness. In fact, he says they are so heretical that the scriptures demand that he "demolish" them and their doctrine.

    Does anyone else think that IFB churches are unbiblical?

    If so, exactly what doctrines do you object to?

    John
     
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  2. dcorbett

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    I am IFB (I was formerly Southern Baptist) because it is the BAPTIST church that suits my beliefs....Saved by grace, once saved, always saved, priesthood of believers, autonomous churches, supporting missionaries of the church's choice. My Pastor preaches BIble truth.
     
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  3. seekingthetruth

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    Thank you dc....mine does too.

    I am just curious to find out what some here object to so much.

    John
     
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  4. Amy.G

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    I think hatefulness is unbiblical and is darkness. You, dcorbett, John of Japan, DHK and others are brothers and sisters and not our enemies. This whole thread is outrageous. My church is SBC and Luke doesn't like that either, but pphhht, who cares?
     
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  5. Luke2427

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    I did not say these things. You need to attempt to be honest. I know as amped as you are, it is hard for you but you ought to try.

    I said SOME IFB.

    And I never said I should demolish THEM. Their philosophies and ideologies are what I am contending should be demolished by all able Christians.
     
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    Amen, Amy, and thank you. Most of the IFB haters are former IFB people who were hurt somehow, so they point fingers at ALL IFB.

    They forget that at one time, they were IFB and knew that IFB are also born again believers.
     
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  7. seekingthetruth

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    What philosophies? And are these philosophies contrary to the Gospel of Christ?

    I am talking about serious Bible doctrine here, not some argument about the history of the church. Knowing all that history is good to know, but it's worthless as far as getting to heaven.

    So lets not nitpick the small stuff, tell me what makes IFB unbiblical and heretic.

    Be specific please

    John
     
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  8. Luke2427

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    Some IFB. Some. Try to get it right.

    I would even contend a whole LOT of IFB.

    But I recognize that many IFB are not backwards like many others who bear that title.
     
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    somehow?!? like how? Are you trying to say something here?
     
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  10. seekingthetruth

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    Luke2427:

    "No hateful was here- except for any thinking that dims the glory of God in our culture and hinders the progress of the kingdom.

    I contend that IFB thinking fits the bill- and is certainly NOT biblical    ."


    I don't see the word "most" in this quote, and I can post many more if I need to. Don't back off now and say that only "most" IFB are heretics, you have made too statements that include all IFB.

    John
     
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    OK Luke, what doctrines do the "bad" IFB churches hold to that are heretic? Please be specific
     
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    It has been there consistently enough in our exchanges for you to know that I meant there too.
     
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    The only way ANY church(not just IFB) would be unbiblical is if that local church was set up by man, and not God. If someone gets offended in certain ways(pastor gets replaced and leaves to start another church for him to pastor), I find it hard to believe that God ordained that church. Too many churches start this way. If someone can't get their way in one church, they will start one somewhere else, where they can. God isn't behind a "movement" like this, IMHHO.
     
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    What I said is what I meant. Somehow.
     
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    There are many SBC churches that are pastored by women, allow homosexual membership and are preaching a watered down seeker sensitive gospel.....but there are many more solid SBC churches than there are liberal ones.

    You don't see me creating threads to ridicule and insult and "demolish" SBC churches because of these few bad ones do you?

    You don't have the right to pass judgement on born again Christians unless you can come up with actual heretic doctrine.

    Show me some IFB heretic doctrine please!

    John
     
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    You know very well some of the doctrines that are rife within IFB that I think are heretical- like kjvo for example.
     
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    Rick, (since you are condemning my church, which includes myself and my family) I hope that you don't mind me calling you Rick. Such a simple word....Rick

    Anyway, please list the IFB doctrines that are unbiblical.

    John
     
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    Rick, Calvinism is rife within the SBC. I believe Calvinism to be heretical. I don't call out all SBC however.
     
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    KJVO is an opinion on translations, it is neither biblical nor unbiblical. It's like choosing rice or potatoes, the Bible doesn't say.

    And, who is going to be denied salvation because they are KJVO?

    Nobody

    Try again for a real one this time

    John
     
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    You should if you really believe that. You should call sbc to condemn it with you or give account for their harboring of heresy.

    Of course they don't do that because they have better sense than to think Calvinism is heresy.
     
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