Are Liberals really liberal?

Check out the chart at the bottom of this linked article.

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That horse has been dead.

In the table at the bottom of the page look at the amounts given by self labeled political liberals compared to the amounts given by political conservatives.


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Who said it did?

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Actually, it was just one example I wanted to use to begin discussion on whether Liberals are really liberal. I take the position that they are not.

Liberals are dogmatically rigid about obtruding their goofy, yet often dangerous ideologies on everyone else. Most Liberals share the same paradoxically small-minded traits: they labor to severely restrict or eliminate individual freedom in almost every realm. They continually preach tolerance, tolerance, tolerance, when in fact they have no tolerance at all for opposing thought. And their favorite weapon of mass obfuscation is a most un-liberal one: if you don’t believe as they do, they label you "morally bankrupt", "evil", or even worse, a "fundamentalist".

Strangely enough, Liberals have proven themselves most illiberal (and I might add, illogical) when it comes to free speech, the primary avenue of intellectual expression and debate one would think a real liberal would defend to the death. One example: Over the past decade, Liberal universities have mandated hyper restrictive speech codes in the name of multiculturalism and tolerance. Another example of their illiberal intolerance: Their attempt at denying the Boy Scouts their Constitutional right to freedom of association. Fortunately, the Supreme Court squelched that insanity.

The obvious question then becomes, given Liberals record of intolerance and narrow-mindedness, how do Liberals get away with calling themselves liberals?

Liberals may not value liberty when it comes to speech, school choice, economics, property rights, gun ownership, or the environment, but mention sex (especially homo sex), drugs, or abortion and you’ve suddenly got a band of wild eyed freedom fighters on your hands. Liberals will ardently defend and even promote sexual perversion, the use banned substances, and abortion on demand until the cows come home.

But if there’s one thing Liberals really are liberal about, it’s the right to hate America, the Military, the West, and the Judeo-Christian ideals they stand for.

The Liberal Syndrome

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[ May 09, 2003, 11:47 PM: Message edited by: new man ]

 

This statement seems to me to be merely one of semantics. Don't we come to conclusions about what we think based on how we think? Could you clarify a little?

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Where do I put socialists? I tend to agree with Lagardelle who says:

I also think the fundamental principles of Socialism are diametrically opposed to the Christian doctrine of free will. This fact is well illustrated by its (Socialism's) attitude towards the three great institutions which have to date most strongly exemplified and protected that doctrine -- the Church, the Family, and private ownership. It is notorious that it is everywhere antagonistic, if not hostile, to Christianity. This is strikingly clear in many Socialist / Communist foreign countries, France being an excellent example, China another, and to a notable extent, the U.S. Democratic Party where Socialists are markedly anti-Christian both in profession and practice.

The Socialist wishes to distribute material goods in such a way as to establish a substantial equality among the masses, and in order to do this he requires the State to make and keep this distribution compulsory. Socialism does all it can to increase the selfish and accumulative desires of men, it centers and concentrates all their interest on material accumulation, and then expects them to freely distribute their goods. Quite a paradox.

As you can see brother Jim, I'm no fan of socialism.

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Well my brother, we disagree on this one.

Cheers to you too my good man,

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Coming soon, Liberalism's attack on America. Stay tuned.

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