Are We Heading Toward Civil War? A New Poll Shows Voters Think We’re on The Edge

[Revmitchell]

The Washington Examiner has more:

Partisan political division and the resulting incivility has reached a low in America, with 67% believing that the nation is nearing civil war, according to a new national survey.

“The majority of Americans believe that we are two-thirds of the way to being on the edge of civil war. That to me is a very pessimistic place,” said Mo Elleithee, the executive director of Georgetown University’s Institute of Politics and Public Service.

And worse, he said in announcing the results of the institute’s Battleground Poll, the political division is likely to make the upcoming 2020 presidential race the nastiest in modern history.

Wait…How Many People Think We’re on The Edge of Civil War

 

[Reformed1689]

I have wondered this myself.

 

[Revmitchell]

I have wondered this myself.

Me too.....hey lets start a new #mettoo movement

 

[HeirofSalvation]

One can dream can't they....

 

[Roy]

It is not hard to imagine the possibility of civil war in today's climate. The war between the states was bad enough, but if civil war happens again in the U.S., I think it will be a more dreadful scenario than it was before.
Clear-cut boundaries existed, for the most part in the previous conflict. If it happens again, neighbors will be at odds with one another, electricity will be out, super markets and gas stations will be out of commission due to power outages and looting, no refrigeration at home due to the power outages, people on meds, won't be able to get them, if you have no ammo stock piled, you won't be able to get any, and the list goes on. Let's hope and pray that it won't happen.

 

[Shoostie]

The only question is how bad is it going to get before the cold culture war turns hot. The Left has nothing but tyranny on their minds.

 

[church mouse guy]

Mark 3:25 (KJV) And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

The USA will fall from within. There won't be any real winners from a second civil war.

 

[Benjamin]

If our President were fraudulently removed from office by the Left I could see a real possibility of it escalating into a type of civil war. As per our country being currently on the edge of a civil war,

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[StefanM]

If our President were fraudulently removed from office by the Left I could see a real possibility of it escalating into a type of civil war. As per our country being currently on the edge of a civil war,

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I highly doubt that. Pence would become President. I think it would cost the Democrats at the ballot box, though.

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

It is not hard to imagine the possibility of civil war in today's climate. The war between the states was bad enough, but if civil war happens again in the U.S., I think it will be a more dreadful scenario than it was before.
Clear-cut boundaries existed, for the most part in the previous conflict. If it happens again, neighbors will be at odds with one another, electricity will be out, super markets and gas stations will be out of commission due to power outages and looting, no refrigeration at home due to the power outages, people on meds, won't be able to get them, if you have no ammo stock piled, you won't be able to get any, and the list goes on. Let's hope and pray that it won't happen.

It will happen. It's a question of when.

I would add that the only place you would have neighbors at each other's throat is the suburbs of large cities, which are a 50/50 mix. Otherwise it's a pretty clear-cut break.

If you live in the cities, you'll be 90% Liberal. If you live in a rural area you'll likely be 90% Independent/JFK Democrat/Conservative/Libertarian (All of which can coexist easily).

If you're in a not-so-great location you have 3 days (cutting it close) to escape and make it to your get-away location. After 3 days most folks will use up their at-home supply of water or even food.

Our family's plan in any SHTF disaster scenario is to head to my parent's land deep in the Blue Ridge where our property is bounded by the New River with the only access road being a 20 foot wide ridgetop road. Most folks up there still can their own food from their gardens.

If a Civil War kicks off, I'll be you ever dollar I got that, China, Iran, Russia, etc will all make their moves. China/Russia may well invade us thru California while Iran/Israel + Saudia Arabia start duking it out with nukes in the Middle East. The best thing to do will be to hunker down for a year while the dust settles...

 

[carpro]

What would "civil war" look like in the country today?

Then, I'll say whether or not I think it's coming.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Did I miss the questions on civil war? All I've found are ones about political division and incivility, and these really focused on what people think about what other people think, not about themselves.

Battle Ground 65 http://politics.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Civility-Questionnaire-.pdf

A poll on civil war should ask people specifics, such as how violent it would have to be before they joined in. This talk of civil war could be more along the lines of “What if they had a war and nobody came?”

 

[StefanM]

What would "civil war" look like in the country today?

Then, I'll say whether or not I think it's coming.

This is a very important question.

If it means instances of civil unrest, with varying degrees of violence, I think it may be likely.

If it means a full-on rebellion attempting to overthrow the government or something similar, then no.

 

[carpro]

This is a very important question.

If it means instances of civil unrest, with varying degrees of violence, I think it may be likely.

If it means a full-on rebellion attempting to overthrow the government or something similar, then no.

I'll go for that.

With one caveat...When the government tries to forcefully confiscate our guns, some people are going to die. And some of them will be law enforcement people who should know better. Legislators need to take heed. Most of the democrats running for president are too stupid to realize this.

 

[StefanM]

I'll go for that.

With one caveat...When the government tries to forcefully confiscate our guns, some people are going to die. And some of them will be law enforcement people who should know better. Legislators need to take heed. Most of the democrats running for president are too stupid to realize this.

You're right on that. The idea of gun confiscation is idiotic. I think the "adults" in the room on the Democrat side realize it would be a fools errand even to try, but then again, the Democratic party on the whole has apparently lost the vestiges of common sense it once had.

Of course, none of this stops candidates like the illustrious Robert Francis O'Rourke of the great state of Texas from making statements enthusiastically endorsing gun confiscation...but he has a 0% chance of success in the primaries.

 

[Benjamin]

If the Left,
first, fraudulently removed our President,
then, had Pence declared unfit because of his strong delusional religious beliefs,
then, placed a Leftist in the White House,
then, upon retaliation passed laws to confiscate our guns,
then, - How about now!

 

[Revmitchell]

This is a very important question.

If it means instances of civil unrest, with varying degrees of violence, I think it may be likely.

If it means a full-on rebellion attempting to overthrow the government or something similar, then no.

I think.it could go beyond that. People are very mad on both sides. How far beyond that is hard to say but I woukdnt count it out. Currently I believe we are in a cold civil war.

 

[Shoostie]

What would "civil war" look like in the country today?

Then, I'll say whether or not I think it's coming.

It'll start with conservative states refusing to follow particularly tyrannical federal laws. The feds will respond by trying to financially choke these states by cutting off federal funding. Leftists in this conservative states will start committing acts of terrorism. It'll escalate from there.

 

[StefanM]

If the Left,
first, fraudulently removed our President,
then, had Pence declared unfit because of his strong delusional religious beliefs,
then, placed a Leftist in the White House,
then, upon retaliation passed laws to confiscate our guns,
then, - How about now!

If those things all happened, maybe.

But I doubt they would happen. Removing Trump is definitely a possibility. Fraudulent is a matter of judgment here. Removal from office through impeachment and conviction would require significant Republican support, and I wouldn't call it fraudulent if it's a bipartisan act that is specifically authorized in the Constitution. If you mean they removed him from office by some other means (other than resignation), which would be unconstitutional, then it's another matter.

Pence being declared unfit would be difficult because the constitutional procedure in the 25th Amendment specifies that the VP does have to sign on to the declaration that the President is "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office". This would first require the nomination of a VP that is approved by both houses of Congress (so at least some Republicans would have to be on board to pass the Senate, even if all Democrats voted for a candidate). I can't imagine Pence nominating someone who would win the left-wing extremists, period, but even if he did, I don't see the candidate making it through Congress.

And even then, it would require the majority of the cabinet to also sign onto the declaration and then 2/3 of both houses of Congress to affirm that declaration after Pence sends notice to Congress that he is able--which he would definitely do.

It's just too unrealistic and complicated to get even to this point. The rest would therefore not happen.

An actual military coup would be more likely, IMO, and I don't think there's any real chance of that happening.

 

[StefanM]

I think.it could go beyond that. People are very mad on both sides. How far beyond that is hard to say but I woukdnt count it out. Currently I believe we are in a cold civil war.

Maybe those furthest to the right and those furthest to the left are mad enough (I still doubt that even most of those would be mad enough), but enough Americans to sustain anything more than pockets of unrest? I really doubt that.

On gun confiscation, I don't think even the Democratic party would have the votes. And if they did pass a law, SCOTUS would strike down the law.

The only way I see things getting extreme enough for a "civil war" scenario is if all constitutional safeguards break down (and there are many of them), in which case we would be looking at a revolution on the order of the 1917 Russian Revolution. I can't even imagine that happening.

Apart from that, if we still have constitutional measures, most Americans would be fed up with the garbage and gravitate to whoever tries to preserve the constitution and our freedoms.