Are we in a Civil Cold War?

[Revmitchell]

The definition of civil war is:

"a war between political factions or regions within the same country."

Definition of civil war | Dictionary.com


The definition of cold war is:

"a continuing state of resentful antagonism between two parties short of open hostility or violence."

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So with these combined definitions is is right to characterize the current state of our country as being is a civil cold war?

 

[Reformed]

There is definitely a level of anger and hatred between people of different groups that seems to be reaching critical mass. Will it turn into a shooting war? I do not think it will ever be like the Civil War this nation experienced in the 1860s. It is more likely that society will fall into anarchy.

 

[Use of Time]

No.

 

[Revmitchell]

There is definitely a level of anger and hatred between people of different groups that seems to be reaching critical mass. Will it turn into a shooting war? I do not think it will ever be like the Civil War this nation experienced in the 1860s. It is more likely that society will fall into anarchy.

But do you think the term cold war applies?

 

[Reformed]

Bit do you think the term cold war applies?

It depends on how generous you want to be with the term. I suppose it could be used in a certain context. I prefer the term "culture war", although the two terms could be interchangeable.

 

[just-want-peace]

Call it whatever you like in today's political climate, BUT one thing is certain; the clash between two opposing factions (dims VS reality) is nothing if not humongous.
List each party's basic beliefs, and you will find at least (IMHO) 95% disagreement; perhaps even 100%.
Abortion, finances, immigration, health care, foreign policy, enemy appeasement, history, fire arms, climate (change?), crime enforcement & punishment, taxes, regulations, free speech, religion, role of gov't, -- yada, yada, yada!!
We went through 8 years of the ZERO'S administration and the right never treated him as the left has done to Trump since Nov 2016!! It seems that the left HATES Trump, more than they love America!!

This ALMOST (????) makes me believe that when Trump is re-elected - by a larger margin than in '16 - the wound-up left just may decide to try to make this "COLD WAR" into a "HOT WAR"!

Hope they are not so stupid as to try, but just observing the left since 11/16 doesn't do much to encourage my hope.

Hope they (the left) have enough logic left to realize that their opposition are the ones that have most of the privately owned guns, while , (as I read in a quip earlier ), "--they don't know which bathroom to use"!!

MARANATHA

 

[xlsdraw]

But do you think the term cold war applies?

Yes

 

[Reformed]

In my quiet time this morning, I read Psalm 11. I think it is apropos to this thread:

11:1In the LORD I take refuge; How can you say to my soul, “Flee as a bird to your mountain; 2 For, behold, the wicked bend the bow, They make ready their arrow upon the string To shoot in darkness at the upright in heart. 3 If the foundations are destroyed, What can the righteous do?” 4 The LORD is in His holy temple; the LORD’S throne is in heaven; His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men. 5 The LORD tests the righteous and the wicked, And the one who loves violence His soul hates. 6 Upon the wicked He will rain snares; Fire and brimstone and burning wind will be the portion of their cup. 7 For the LORD is righteous, He loves righteousness; The upright will behold His face.

 

[church mouse guy]

The left is addicted to soy "milk" which produces estrogen.

 

[StefanM]

The culture is extremely polarized, but we aren't going to get into any sort of situation with widespread anarchy. Some areas could have protests that border on riots, but I don't think they will last. I also don't think they will be that common.

I do think some of this will go away whenever Trump is not in the picture. He is a very, very visible and very, very vocal target for criticism, a lot of which he brings on himself. The left would attack any Republican President, but, unlike pretty much every other President in recent history, Trump will directly and strongly engage. He has absolutely no problem getting on Twitter, getting on the news, making inflammatory comments at a rally, etc.

Of course, all of this triggers the left because they are shocked at the idea that anyone would be as brazen as Trump (regardless of the topic), and they become even more outraged. They are even more shocked that a very large portion of the American people respond positively to Trump, which frustrates them even further.

Trump obviously understands this and continues to play the game because it works well for him politically. Republican politicians go along with it because they have nothing to gain and everything to lose if they oppose him. Besides, they don't want to give up ground to the Democrats, so I think most politicians are just going with it until Trump is out of office.

Unless someone else replaces Trump as a strong personality with a very devoted base (unlikely), I think the GOP will move on but without the Trump-stirred drama. The left won't have as clear of a target for criticism, and the left can retreat into their echo chambers. Sure, some will continue to make noise, but I don't think the average American is on board for the left-wing nonsense being preached today.

I'm not saying that Trump is the cause of this. Rather, he's the agent that brings everything to the surface. Although I don't like the way Trump operates, I do appreciate how he has shed a whole lot of light on what the left truly believes. It has been eye-opening for sure.

 

[Revmitchell]

What Trump says has little to do with why the left hates him and is do angry

 

[Reynolds]

The definition of civil war is:

"a war between political factions or regions within the same country."

Definition of civil war | Dictionary.com


The definition of cold war is:

"a continuing state of resentful antagonism between two parties short of open hostility or violence."

_______________________________________________________________________________

So with these combined definitions is is right to characterize the current state of our country as being is a civil cold war?

Not yet. There are still enough RINOS not willing to fight.

 

[StefanM]

What Trump says has little to do with why the left hates him and is do angry

Can you credibly say that? When the left directly reacts to what he says and does, how are Trump's statements not at least a factor?

I don't say this to justify the left. I think Trump has a tendency to bait them into revealing their biases.

 

[Revmitchell]

Can you credibly say that? When the left directly reacts to what he says and does, how are Trump's statements not at least a factor?

I don't say this to justify the left. I think Trump has a tendency to bait them into revealing their biases.

I did not say it was not a factor.

 

[StefanM]

I did not say it was not a factor.

Ah, yes, I re-read your original statement. I retract that portion of my post.

 

[Revmitchell]

Ah, yes, I re-read your original statement. I retract that portion of my post.

What bothers them is a number of issues. For one he is undoing all that Obama did in his 8 years. He is remaking the court system with all of his vast appointments. Even the extreme left wing 9th circuit has been made more conservative. He put a stop to funding abortions overseas. He has pulled back all of the regs which were an albatross on our economy. He is building the fence and they have not been able to stop him. The court even ok'd him to seperate families. He has cut illegal immigration back 78%. He has done more that any other President in this time frame.

That is what ticks them off.

 

[Yeshua1]

The definition of civil war is:

"a war between political factions or regions within the same country."

Definition of civil war | Dictionary.com


The definition of cold war is:

"a continuing state of resentful antagonism between two parties short of open hostility or violence."

_______________________________________________________________________________

So with these combined definitions is is right to characterize the current state of our country as being is a civil cold war?

yes, in the ultimate sense a battle between those in the kingdom of God and those in the Kingdom of satan!

 

[StefanM]

What bothers them is a number of issues. For one he is undoing all that Obama did in his 8 years. He is remaking the court system with all of his vast appointments. Even the extreme left wing 9th circuit has been made more conservative. He put a stop to funding abortions overseas. He has pulled back all of the regs which were an albatross on our economy. He is building the fence and they have not been able to stop him. The court even ok'd him to seperate families. He has cut illegal immigration back 78%. He has done more that any other President in this time frame.

That is what ticks them off.

That's a valid point. I would just argue that Trump's rhetoric kicks it up a notch. They are already angry due to the things you mentioned, and his rhetoric triggers them. It's smart politics to irritate the left like that, though.

 

[Revmitchell]

That's a valid point. I would just argue that Trump's rhetoric kicks it up a notch. They are already angry due to the things you mentioned, and his rhetoric triggers them. It's smart politics to irritate the left like that, though.

The thing is they do not understand what makes him tick. They cannot figure out why he does what he does. I like that he fights back. I used to almost scream at the Repubs for being so quiet with all the attacks especially bush. I do wish he would fight even on twitter but dial back some of the words he uses.

I do believe we are in a cold war in this country. I do not think it will take much to set it off. The state of Virginia is getting awful close. Militia's all over the country are gearing up right now. Those in the militia's are no longer just people off the fringe. They are now doctors, lawyers, plumbers and a whole lot of people. They are now having regular conference calls and making sure everyone is well aware of what is going on.

 

[Yeshua1]

The thing is they do not understand what makes him tick. They cannot figure out why he does what he does. I like that he fights back. I used to almost scream at the Repubs for being so quiet with all the attacks especially bush. I do wish he would fight even on twitter but dial back some of the words he uses.

I do believe we are in a cold war in this country. I do not think it will take much to set it off. The state of Virginia is getting awful close. Militia's all over the country are gearing up right now. Those in the militia's are no longer just people off the fringe. They are now doctors, lawyers, plumbers and a whole lot of people. They are now having regular conference calls and making sure everyone is well aware of what is going on.

God raised up Trump for such a time as this, as the Kingdoms of God and Satan now are in full fight!