Article with Shocking Quotes from Church Fathers

[SGO]

Dear forum members,

In searching for articles that would help me strengthen my understanding of the first part of 1 Corinthians 10
I ran across this article:

Anti-Semitism

It's too long to print here and I'm sure I would make plenty of errors trying to summarize it.

But the article attributes, by quoting highly esteemed church fathers, including Martin Luther, of making "unchristianlike" statements.

Have you ever heard of such things?

 

[Deacon]

They were different times back when ML lived.
Culture played a part in his anti-Jewish views.

ML was not anti-Semitic in the way we consider the term today.
He was against the Jewish religion for their unwillingness to convert to Christianity.
There were also some urban legends about the Jews that ML fell victim to believing which contributed to his expressed hatred.

Rob

 

[SGO]

I was taught that the Early Church Fathers were authorities and Martin Luther was a great man.
Still great for what he did for the word of God and faith but to hide the warts?
It makes Christian historians and teachers unwilling to teach the whole truth in order to protect the "innocent".
I guess they think it won't get out enough to damage their positions.
What else can I think?
If these quotes are accurate in rendering these early leaders true opinions,
how many will now run to defend them or minimize this evil thinking in order to protect "scriptural" doctrine?
That is, if they really thought like that.

 

[Deacon]

How would you measure up?
Even the best of us have warts.
We remember great people for the good they have done.

Mark 10:18 ...Who is good except God alone.

Rob

 

[SGO]

How would you measure up?
Even the best of us have warts.
We remember great people for the good they have done.

Mark 10:18 ...Who is good except God alone.

Rob

Well a number of people have a low opinion of me already.
Looks like you do too.
And I am most likely a much worse sinner than you.
But hating the Jews is something we should overlook because of the good they have done?

What do you think our Lord thinks about that kind of mentality?
Oh well, the good outweighs the bad.

Let them all be confounded
and turned back that hate Zion.
Psalm 129:5

 

[atpollard]

If these quotes are accurate in rendering these early leaders true opinions,

No quote, by its very “sound byte” nature stripped of all context, can accurately render the true opinion of a man ... especially over the course of a lifetime.

If you want to know what Luther thought of Jews, you will need to read about all that he did and said over his lifetime, the events that formed the historic context for the society in which he lived, and the personal events in his life that changed his views over the course of a lifetime. Then we can discuss what Luther’s opinion was at any particular moment in his life and how his opinions changed.

Shall we conclude that Abraham, the father of faith, was EVIL because he had slaves and multiple wives, or should we consider the Scripture that had been revealed as of his time and the society into which he was born? Is David, a man after God’s heart, EVIL because of his polygamy, concubines and sins? God forgave him, but perhaps we shouldn’t?

I agree that it is dangerous to place men on pedestals, but it is also dangerous to judge all men by YOUR standard of what is right and wrong. If we judge by God’s standard, then all men need forgiveness and their work will be consumed or revealed by the fire of God’s word.

So we should remember the gold and silver that Luther built with and show charity towards the hay and straw that Luther may have built with during his lifetime. When our works are tested, we would hope for the same charity towards our soon to be forgotten by God follies.

 

[SGO]

No quote, by its very “sound byte” nature stripped of all context, can accurately render the true opinion of a man ... especially over the course of a lifetime.


I agree that it is dangerous to place men on pedestals, but it is also dangerous to judge all men by YOUR standard of what is right and wrong.

If we judge by God’s standard, then all men need forgiveness and their work will be consumed or revealed by the fire of God’s word.

That's right I only have sound bytes of these men.

Did you not read the verse?

If it's only my standards then of course there will be trouble.

Here is another verse which you can say is only a sound byte:

And I will bless them that bless thee,
and curse him that curseth thee:
and in thee shall all all families of the earth be blessed.
Genesis 12:3

It's ok then to cover up hatred of Jews by our Christian heroes because we stand on the great things that they did.

Let us all forget this and forgive their hatred and not even mention it.
My error.

 

[atpollard]

Here is another verse which you can say is only a sound byte:

And I will bless them that bless thee,
and curse him that curseth thee:
and in thee shall all all families of the earth be blessed.
Genesis 12:3

Who is "thee"?

(... and it was the quotes from Luther that I called sound bytes. Tell me what you know of Luther and the Jews and I will fill in SOME of what you might not know from a single quote from one book. It is a huge, complex subject and relationship with no simple "right and wrong" answers.)

 

[atpollard]

It's ok then to cover up hatred of Jews by our Christian heroes because we stand on the great things that they did.

Let us all forget this and forgive their hatred and not even mention it.
My error.

Actually, your error is in failing to even mention that in a time and place when Jews were universally hated because the CHURCH had taught they murdered Christ, were rejected by God and the Church was the new Israel (replacement Theology) for over 1000 years, Luther stood up for the Jews and attempted a major effort to win them to Christ with the Gospel rather than an Inquisition like Rome had attempted.

It was only after the Jews of his time rejected the gospel (again) and used their financial powers of usury to impoverish and enslave vast numbers of German Christian peasants that Luther lost patience with attempting to reach them and employed the fiery rhetoric typical of literature of the 16th Century to advocate that a Christian Country should not be enslaved to Jewish bankers (which was not a conspiracy theory, but a 16th Century political reality).

Yet you refuse to see any EVIL in the 16th century Jews or any good in Martin Luther.
As I said, it is a complex issue with no simple "right and wrong".

 

[atpollard]

FYI: In 1 Kings 8:11, the Lord dwelt in His temple among His people, and in Ezekiel 10 the Glory of the Lord departed the Temple never to return (dedication of 2nd Temple in Ezra 6). God the Son returns in the Gospels and the Holy Spirit returns to the new Temple (the Body of Christ) in Acts 2. The Third Temple is completely demolished in 70 AD.

The other half of what God said:

[Deuteronomy 28:15-68 NASB]
15 "But it shall come about, if you do not obey the LORD your God, to observe to do all His commandments and His statutes with which I charge you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:

16 "Cursed [shall] you [be] in the city, and cursed [shall] you [be] in the country.

17 "Cursed [shall be] your basket and your kneading bowl.

18 "Cursed [shall be] the offspring of your body and the produce of your ground, the increase of your herd and the young of your flock.

19 "Cursed [shall] you [be] when you come in, and cursed [shall] you [be] when you go out.

20 "The LORD will send upon you curses, confusion, and rebuke, in all you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken Me. 21 "The LORD will make the pestilence cling to you until He has consumed you from the land where you are entering to possess it. 22 "The LORD will smite you with consumption and with fever and with inflammation and with fiery heat and with the sword and with blight and with mildew, and they will pursue you until you perish. 23 "The heaven which is over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you, iron. 24 "The LORD will make the rain of your land powder and dust; from heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed.

25 "The LORD shall cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you will go out one way against them, but you will flee seven ways before them, and you will be [an example of] terror to all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 "Your carcasses will be food to all birds of the sky and to the beasts of the earth, and there will be no one to frighten [them] away.

27 "The LORD will smite you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors and with the scab and with the itch, from which you cannot be healed. 28 "The LORD will smite you with madness and with blindness and with bewilderment of heart; 29 and you will grope at noon, as the blind man gropes in darkness, and you will not prosper in your ways; but you shall only be oppressed and robbed continually, with none to save you. 30 "You shall betroth a wife, but another man will violate her; you shall build a house, but you will not live in it; you shall plant a vineyard, but you will not use its fruit. 31 "Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will not eat of it; your donkey shall be torn away from you, and will not be restored to you; your sheep shall be given to your enemies, and you will have none to save you. 32 "Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, while your eyes look on and yearn for them continually; but there will be nothing you can do. 33 "A people whom you do not know shall eat up the produce of your ground and all your labors, and you will never be anything but oppressed and crushed continually. 34 "You shall be driven mad by the sight of what you see. 35 "The LORD will strike you on the knees and legs with sore boils, from which you cannot be healed, from the sole of your foot to the crown of your head. 36 "The LORD will bring you and your king, whom you set over you, to a nation which neither you nor your fathers have known, and there you shall serve other gods, wood and stone. 37 "You shall become a horror, a proverb, and a taunt among all the people where the LORD drives you.

38 "You shall bring out much seed to the field but you will gather in little, for the locust will consume it. 39 "You shall plant and cultivate vineyards, but you will neither drink of the wine nor gather [the grapes,] for the worm will devour them. 40 "You shall have olive trees throughout your territory but you will not anoint yourself with the oil, for your olives will drop off. 41 "You shall have sons and daughters but they will not be yours, for they will go into captivity. 42 "The cricket shall possess all your trees and the produce of your ground. 43 "The alien who is among you shall rise above you higher and higher, but you will go down lower and lower. 44 "He shall lend to you, but you will not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you will be the tail.

45 "So all these curses shall come on you and pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you would not obey the LORD your God by keeping His commandments and His statutes which He commanded you. 46 "They shall become a sign and a wonder on you and your descendants forever.

47 "Because you did not serve the LORD your God with joy and a glad heart, for the abundance of all things; 48 therefore you shall serve your enemies whom the LORD will send against you, in hunger, in thirst, in nakedness, and in the lack of all things; and He will put an iron yoke on your neck until He has destroyed you.

49 "The LORD will bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as the eagle swoops down, a nation whose language you shall not understand, 50 a nation of fierce countenance who will have no respect for the old, nor show favor to the young. 51 "Moreover, it shall eat the offspring of your herd and the produce of your ground until you are destroyed, who also leaves you no grain, new wine, or oil, nor the increase of your herd or the young of your flock until they have caused you to perish. 52 "It shall besiege you in all your towns until your high and fortified walls in which you trusted come down throughout your land, and it shall besiege you in all your towns throughout your land which the LORD your God has given you. 53 "Then you shall eat the offspring of your own body, the flesh of your sons and of your daughters whom the LORD your God has given you, during the siege and the distress by which your enemy will oppress you. 54 "The man who is refined and very delicate among you shall be hostile toward his brother and toward the wife he cherishes and toward the rest of his children who remain, 55 so that he will not give [even] one of them any of the flesh of his children which he will eat, since he has nothing [else] left, during the siege and the distress by which your enemy will oppress you in all your towns. 56 "The refined and delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground for delicateness and refinement, shall be hostile toward the husband she cherishes and toward her son and daughter, 57 and toward her afterbirth which issues from between her legs and toward her children whom she bears; for she will eat them secretly for lack of anything [else,] during the siege and the distress by which your enemy will oppress you in your towns.

58 "If you are not careful to observe all the words of this law which are written in this book, to fear this honored and awesome name, the LORD your God, 59 then the LORD will bring extraordinary plagues on you and your descendants, even severe and lasting plagues, and miserable and chronic sicknesses. 60 "He will bring back on you all the diseases of Egypt of which you were afraid, and they will cling to you. 61 "Also every sickness and every plague which, not written in the book of this law, the LORD will bring on you until you are destroyed. 62 "Then you shall be left few in number, whereas you were as numerous as the stars of heaven, because you did not obey the LORD your God. 63 "It shall come about that as the LORD delighted over you to prosper you, and multiply you, so the LORD will delight over you to make you perish and destroy you; and you will be torn from the land where you are entering to possess it. 64 "Moreover, the LORD will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth; and there you shall serve other gods, wood and stone, which you or your fathers have not known. 65 "Among those nations you shall find no rest, and there will be no resting place for the sole of your foot; but there the LORD will give you a trembling heart, failing of eyes, and despair of soul. 66 "So your life shall hang in doubt before you; and you will be in dread night and day, and shall have no assurance of your life. 67 "In the morning you shall say, 'Would that it were evening!' And at evening you shall say, 'Would that it were morning!' because of the dread of your heart which you dread, and for the sight of your eyes which you will see. 68 "The LORD will bring you back to Egypt in ships, by the way about which I spoke to you, 'You will never see it again!' And there you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but there will be no buyer."​

 

[SGO]

atpollard quote

"Actually, your error is in failing to even mention that in a time and place when Jews were universally hated because the CHURCH had taught they murdered Christ, were rejected by God and the Church was the new Israel (replacement Theology) for over 1000 years, Luther stood up for the Jews and attempted a major effort to win them to Christ with the Gospel rather than an Inquisition like Rome had attempted.

It was only after the Jews of his time rejected the gospel (again) and used their financial powers of usury to impoverish and enslave vast numbers of German Christian peasants that Luther lost patience with attempting to reach them and employed the fiery rhetoric typical of literature of the 16th Century to advocate that a Christian Country should not be enslaved to Jewish bankers (which was not a conspiracy theory, but a 16th Century political reality).

Yet you refuse to see any EVIL in the 16th century Jews or any good in Martin Luther.
As I said, it is a complex issue with no simple "right and wrong"."


Weren't these Church Fathers living before the 16th century?



"Yet you refuse to see any EVIL in the 16th century Jews or any good in Martin Luther."


Not true about Martin Luther.

And nowadays all bankers are good if they are not Jewish, but it's ok to employ usury and other dubious banking methods right?




OK that was a sound byte I said from God.
I was a little upset.


They were in a different culture?
It is too complicated?


Did they actually write or say those things or not?

Did they mean them?

Are people trying to apologize for them?

Are they not at the least mean spirited sayings?

Is some of that thinking in the church today?

Is it a relief for some to still have a doctrine separating themselves from Israel?

I asked here because there are knowledgeable members of this forum.

We stand on the Jewish Lord Jesus Christ, He being God who became a man and sacrificed Himself on our behalf, who is also alive today.

We all know this from scripture, wrested from the hands of clerics who wanted control of the masses.

We have, from what little I know of, Martin Luther to thank in part for that.

My wife told me that in his older years Mr. Luther veered off the track.



So in my BC days I said bad things about Jews.

Since then I have heard from Christians actually saying with animosity that, "Jews run the world."

Did Jews give up the right to be loved by God when their leaders crucified their Messiah and did God abandon them for it?

It's ok now to think that rubbish as long as you don't promote it?

Well, some of the Church Fathers said disparaging things about Jews at least once.

Isn't anyone willing to admit that what these Fathers said is bad?

Is no one here surprised and dismayed or is this old news and we can't do anything about it now?

Except for not to talk about it.

 

[atpollard]

Isn't anyone willing to admit that what these Fathers said is bad?

Sure, I will.

Have you read the OT? The Patriarchs were not selected because they were towers of virtue. Everyone, including the Church fathers, get's a lot of things wrong.

Personally, I don't get upset about it because I never cared that much about the Church Fathers to begin with. I don't need Martin Luther to tell me about God, thanks to men like Tindale I can read what God said for myself and let God tell me about God. So I am happy to hear what Luther said ... and immediately compare it to scripture to see if it is worth thinking about or needs to be thrown in the trash.

As far as Jews are concerned, they are people. No more and no less. Some are virtuous and some are not, just like blacks and whites and asians and any other people in the world. They are sinners in need of Jesus to save them and some will go to heaven and many will go to hell ... just like anyone else. God might have specific plans for the nation, but that is God's business and not mine. God can punish sinners without my help and God can raise up nations without my help. My job is to give a reason for the hope that is within me to whomever God sends my way (Jew or gentile).

I am unimpressed by people that idolize everything "Jewish", and I am repulsed by men that use Jesus as a reason to hate. That is where I personally stand on the issue.

Feel free to flagellate yourself for the failures of Church Fathers if you think that you must, but I have no intention of joining you. Their flaws are a matter between them and God. I strive towards the Moravian Motto: In essentials unity. In non-essentials liberty. In all things charity.

 

[atpollard]

Weren't these Church Fathers living before the 16th century?

PS. Martin Luther is the ONLY Church Father that you specifically mentioned by name, so he is the only one that I have discussed with you. If you want to talk about some other Church father, then feel free to bring him up and what he said.

Is it only "antisemitism" that upsets you?

 

[SGO]

Well how about a statement from you that antisemitism is bad and has no place in the church?

That would have mollified me.

Here are some quotes from the article:

Ignatius of Antioch (ca 50-117 AD) — Taught that those who partake of the Passover are partakers with those who killed Jesus.4

Justin Martyr (100-106 AD) — Claimed God’s covenant with Israel was no longer valid and that the Gentiles had replaced the Jews.5

Irenaeus (ca 130-202 AD) — Declared the Jews were disinherited from the grace of God.6

Tertullian (ca 155-230 AD) — Blamed the Jews for the death of Jesus and argued they had been rejected by God.7

Origen (185-254 AD) — He was responsible for much anti- Semitism, all of which was based on his assertion that the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus.8

The Council of Elvira (305 AD in Spain) — Prohibited Christians from sharing a meal with a Jew, marrying a Jew, blessing a Jew or observing the Sabbath.9

The Council of Nicea (325 AD in Turkey) — Changed the celebration of the Resurrection from the Jewish Feast of First Fruits to Easter in an attempt to disassociate it from Jewish feasts. The Council stated: “For it is unbecoming beyond measure that on this holiest of festivals we should follow the customs of the Jews. Henceforth let us have nothing in common with this odious people…”10

Eusebius (ca 275-339 AD) — Taught that the promises of Scripture were meant for the Gentiles and the curses were meant for the Jews. Asserted that the Church was the “true Israel.”11

John Chrysostom (349-407 AD) — Preached a series of sermons against the Jews in which he stated, “The synagogue is not only a brothel and a theater, it is also a den of robbers and lodging place for wild beasts… Jews are inveterate murderers possessed by the Devil. Their debauchery and drunkenness gives the manners of a pig.” He denied that Jews could ever receive forgiveness. He claimed it was a Christian duty to hate Jews. He claimed that Jews worshiped Satan. And this man was canonized a saint!12

Jerome (ca 347-420 AD) — Described the Jews as “… serpents wearing the image of Judas. Their psalms and prayers are the braying of donkeys… They are incapable of understanding Scripture…”13

St. Augustine (354-430 AD) — Asserted that the Jews deserved death but were destined to wander the earth to witness the victory of the Church over the synagogue.”14

But nooo-oooo you think I have a hidden agenda.

Thank you for admitting, "I will."

 

[Wesley Briggman]

ML was not anti-Semitic in the way we consider the term today.

Based on the following documentation, from Martin Luther's On the Jews and Their Lies and the article from the Time Life Book on WWII page 136, the Nazis, please explain why you do not consider Luther anti-Semitic and provide documents from those you do consider anti-Semitic.


WARNING: This is a Notorious Antisemitic Document!
On the Jews and Their Lies, 1543 by Martin Luther (1483-1546)

Translated by Martin H. Bertram

Excerpts from Luther's treatise on the Jews.

"First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians."

"Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed."

"Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them."

"Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb."

"Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews."

"Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping."


WORLD WAR II · TIME-LIFE BOOKS · ALEXANDRIA, VIRGINIA

"When Hitler began preaching anti-Semitism, he might have
taken his text from the 16th Century German theologian
Martin Luther, who in railing against many groups that op-
posed his new church declared that the Jews were "like
a plague, pestilence, pure misfortune." Luther charged:

"They let us work in the sweat of our noses, to earn money
and property for them, while they sit behind the oven, la-
zy, let off gas, bake pears, eat, drink, live softly and well
from our wealth."

Actually, Martin Luther's anti-Semitism-and German
anti-Semitism for generations after him-differed little in
kind from anti-Semitism anywhere else in Europe. But the
ancient prejudice seemed to grow stronger in Germany in
the early 19th Century with the rise of nationalism; in fact,
in Germany the two often intermeshed..."

Page 135

-------

BY ROBERT EDWIN HERZSTEIN AND THE EDITORS OF TIME-LIFE BOOKS

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

For some reason, I don’t feel the need to hold all Jews responsible for crucifying the Christ or for persecuting Christians in the past, something they began very soon after Pentecost, or even for bad things said about Christ in their writings.

So why should I feel the need to apologize for these other Christians whom I do not look up to as either infallible or perfect? To insist that I should so feel here should also lead to the conclusion that I should in the former case.

 

[SGO]

Hello.

You may not have read the article which was linked in the first post.

Ok. You quoted from Luther's pamphlet.

Below is a section from it the first link.

I always thought Luther was a good man through and through.



"Unfortunately, the Reformation produced no changes in attitude. In fact, the hatred of the Jews was reinforced and intensified by the writings of Martin Luther, the very man who launched the Reformation.

Initially, Luther was sympathetic toward the Jews because he believed their rejection of the Gospel was due to their recognition of the corruption of the Roman Catholic Church.

But when they continued to reject the Gospel, Luther turned on them with a vengeance. In 1543 he wrote a pamphlet entitled “Concerning The Jews and Their Lies.” The document was an anti-Semitic diatribe. In it, he referred to the Jews as:20

• “A miserable and accursed people”
• “Stupid fools”
• “Miserable, blind and senseless”
• “Thieves and robbers”
• “The great vermin of humanity”
• “Lazy rogues”
• “Blind and venomous”

Having dehumanized and demonized them, Luther then proceeded to make some startling proposals for dealing with them:

1. Their synagogues and schools should be burned.
2. Their houses should be destroyed.
3. Their Talmudic writings should be confiscated.
4. Their Rabbis should be forbidden to teach.
5. Their money should be taken from them.
6. They should be compelled into forced labor."

Anti-Semitism

This is the first time I had heard of these things from the Church Fathers and later Martin Luther.

I guess some take now as water off the back but they sure gave me a shock.

I ask for pardon as I was ignorant of antisemitism so entrenched in church history that was not totally Roman.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Furthermore, this issue is not at all new. Decades ago, ministries that I never knew to be anti-Semitic, shocked me by openly apologizing for their attitudes toward Jews. Many have opened up dialogue with Jews. Some even seem to have gone too far, acting as though Jews don’t need Christ.

Things are not the same as they were then. America even trounced the Nazis and liberated the Jews. The new country of Israel was created not long afterward. Etc., etc., etc.

 

[utilyan]

Hello.

You may not have read the article which was linked in the first post.

Ok. You quoted from Luther's pamphlet.

Below is a section from it the first link.

I always thought Luther was a good man through and through.



"Unfortunately, the Reformation produced no changes in attitude. In fact, the hatred of the Jews was reinforced and intensified by the writings of Martin Luther, the very man who launched the Reformation.

Initially, Luther was sympathetic toward the Jews because he believed their rejection of the Gospel was due to their recognition of the corruption of the Roman Catholic Church.

But when they continued to reject the Gospel, Luther turned on them with a vengeance. In 1543 he wrote a pamphlet entitled “Concerning The Jews and Their Lies.” The document was an anti-Semitic diatribe. In it, he referred to the Jews as:20

• “A miserable and accursed people”
• “Stupid fools”
• “Miserable, blind and senseless”
• “Thieves and robbers”
• “The great vermin of humanity”
• “Lazy rogues”
• “Blind and venomous”

Having dehumanized and demonized them, Luther then proceeded to make some startling proposals for dealing with them:

1. Their synagogues and schools should be burned.
2. Their houses should be destroyed.
3. Their Talmudic writings should be confiscated.
4. Their Rabbis should be forbidden to teach.
5. Their money should be taken from them.
6. They should be compelled into forced labor."

Anti-Semitism

This is the first time I had heard of these things from the Church Fathers and later Martin Luther.

I guess some take now as water off the back but they sure gave me a shock.

I ask for pardon as I was ignorant of antisemitism so entrenched in church history that was not totally Roman.

I read Martin Luther said It was a sin not to kill Jews. Martin Luther and antisemitism - Wikipedia

But his idea of Faith Alone and Sola Scriptura is probably a great idea.........NOPE.

 

[tyndale1946]

I read Martin Luther said It was a sin not to kill Jews. Martin Luther and antisemitism - Wikipedia

But his idea of Faith Alone and Sola Scriptura is probably a great idea.........NOPE.

Its Faith Alone... By Jesus Christ Alone!... Brother Glen

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.