Automatic Medicare and Medicaid Cuts under Paygo averted under Temporary Funding Deal

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Medicare Spared From Budget Cuts in 2018

These would have triggered automatically by the Tax Bill but Democrats successfully got them blocked under a TEMPORARY spending bill to avert a government shutdown.

The Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which the president signed today, is projected to add $1.5 trillion to the deficit over the next decade. Under the 2010 “pay-as-you-go” law known as PAYGO, that increase to the deficit would have triggered automatic spending cuts to programs, including a $25 billion cut to Medicare in 2018 alone. But in an AARP-supported move, the House and Senate on Thursday waived the required cuts as part of a temporary spending bill to prevent a government shutdown. Thousands of AARP members contacted their legislators, urging them to act before the end of the year and prevent the Medicare cuts.

 

[Rob_BW]

What "temporary spending bill" are they talking about? The last CR was signed a week ago. I was tracking that because I had to text my 14 employees and tell them we'd all have to come in the 26th and sign furlough paperwork if nothing passed, not that I was particularly worried about it.

 

[InTheLight]

From the article you posted:

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said this week that the Senate is unlikely to tackle Medicare and Social Security in 2018.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has also ruled out 2018 Medicare cuts.

So you can quit posting your tired lie about how the GOP is going to cut Medicare, cut Medicaid, and kill Grandma and other nursing home residents to pay for the tax cuts.

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[FollowTheWay]

From the article you posted:

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said this week that the Senate is unlikely to tackle Medicare and Social Security in 2018.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has also ruled out 2018 Medicare cuts.

So you can quit posting your tired lie about how the GOP is going to cut Medicare, cut Medicaid, and kill Grandma and other nursing home residents to pay for the tax cuts.

Bookmarking this thread for future reference.

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McConnell also told the people of KY that he was going to repeal Obamacare but they could keep their KYnect insurance. That is KY's name for Obamacare. It's clear what the GOP is all about, taking down our safety net and shoving retirees and nursing home residents out on the street.

 

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McConnell says Ky. healthcare exchange can stay but not ObamaCare

McConnell says Ky. healthcare exchange can stay but not ObamaCare

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) said Monday he wouldn’t mind if the state healthcare insurance exchange known as Kentucky Kynect stayed but reiterated his call for the full repeal of ObamaCare.

Policy experts have questioned the feasibility of preserving the popular state exchange while also repealing the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which set it up and similar exchanges around the country.
“Kentucky Kynect is a website. It was paid for by a two-hundred-and-some-odd-million-dollar grant from the federal government. The website can continue but in my view the best interests of the country would be achieved by pulling out ObamaCare root and branch,” McConnell said in a debate with Alison Lundergan Grimes, the Democratic candidate for Senate.

Kynect, the health insurance marketplace set up by ObamaCare in Kentucky, has emerged as one of the law’s success stories. About 10 percent of the state’s population has used it to obtain insurance coverage although critics note most of that has come about through an expansion of Medicaid.

 

[InTheLight]

McConnell also told the people of KY that he was going to repeal Obamacare but they could keep their KYnect insurance. That is KY's name for Obamacare. It's clear what the GOP is all about, taking down our safety net and shoving retirees and nursing home residents out on the street.

It is clear that you are all about maligning the GOP and passing on Democratic party talking points. Name one piece of legislation introduced by Republicans aimed at shoving retirees and nursing home residents out on the streets.

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In McConnell’s Own State, Fear and Confusion Over Health Care Bill

In McConnell’s Own State, Fear and Confusion Over Health Care Bill

WHITESBURG, Ky. — Dewey Gorman, a 59-year-old banker who has struggled with opioid addiction, had just gotten out of the hospital in this tiny central Appalachian city when he heard the word from Washington: His fellow Kentuckian, Senator Mitch McConnell, had delayed a vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act. He felt torn about that.

“It’s broken. It’s broken very badly,” Mr. Gorman said of former President Barack Obama’s signature health care law. “But if they want to take away insurance from 22 million people — a lot of them would come from these mountains. That would be devastating to our area.”

 

[FollowTheWay]

It is clear that you are all about maligning the GOP and passing on Democratic party talking points. Name one piece of legislation introduced by Republicans aimed at shoving retirees and nursing home residents out on the streets.

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The Tax Bill will destroy Obamacare by taking away the individual mandate. The automatic PayGo cuts on Medicare and Medicaid were averted by a TEMP spending arrangement which could easily be reversed. PayGo is a Republican bill. I was on a town hall call with my R rep. and she touted how great the Tax Bill is which will result in a $1.5T deficit increase. In the next statement she expressed her support for a balanced budget amendment. That's pure hypocrisy. Republicans will not that with the tax cuts we can no longer afford medicare, medicaid and Social Security and will continue to cut them. Let the old people die, right?

 

[InTheLight]

The Tax Bill will destroy Obamacare by taking away the individual mandate.

Obamacare does not fund nursing homes. Medicaid does.
Obamacare does not fund retiree heath care. Medicare does.

You have not shown that Republicans have introduced legislation that kicks old people out on the street.

The automatic PayGo cuts on Medicare and Medicaid were averted by a TEMP spending arrangement which could easily be reversed.

No Democrat would vote to reverse this spending arrangement. You realize that Republicans put together this agreement that guarantees that Medicare and Medicaid will not be subject to cuts by PAYGO, thus directly refuting your claim that they want to cut these programs. A big FAIL on your part.

Republicans will not that with the tax cuts we can no longer afford medicare, medicaid and Social Security and will continue to cut them. Let the old people die, right?

You say Republicans "will continue to cut them", and offer no proof they have cut them. Actually, you point out they altered PAYGO so that these programs would NOT be cut. You are failing to prove your point and seriously undermining your position. Leftist hypocrites do that every day so I'm not surprised.



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[FollowTheWay]

Obamacare does not fund nursing homes. Medicaid does.
Obamacare does not fund retiree heath care. Medicare does.

You have not shown that Republicans have introduced legislation that kicks old people out on the street.



No Democrat would vote to reverse this spending arrangement. You realize that Republicans put together this agreement that guarantees that Medicare and Medicaid will not be subject to cuts by PAYGO, thus directly refuting your claim that they want to cut these programs. A big FAIL on your part.



You say Republicans "will continue to cut them", and offer no proof they have cut them. Actually, you point out they altered PAYGO so that these programs would NOT be cut. You are failing to prove your point and seriously undermining your position. Leftist hypocrites do that every day so I'm not surprised.



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Just wait and see how this plays out.

 

[just-want-peace]

Just wait and see how this plays out.

Would it be too much of an imposition to ask that you DO the same as you PREACH?????

 

[FollowTheWay]

Would it be too much of an imposition to ask that you DO the same as you PREACH?????

I do. I emphasize helping the poor and needy over continuing to throw money at our war machine.

 

[Revmitchell]

I do. I emphasize helping the poor and needy over continuing to throw money at our war machine.

so is your plan to help the poor and the needy simply to throw tax payers dollars at them unending or is there a plan also to help them get to where they can support themsleves and no longer need tax dollars to get by?

 

[Use of Time]

so is your plan to help the poor and the needy simply to throw tax payers dollars at them unending or is there a plan also to help them get to where they can support themsleves and no longer need tax dollars to get by?

What’s the GOP plan to get them to support themselves after you stop the tax payers dollars? This ought to be good.

 

[Rob_BW]

What’s the GOP plan to get them to support themselves after you stop the tax payers dollars? This ought to be good.

Jobs. The ultimate goal is to stoke the economy to produce jobs. A safety net is good, and will always be needed for those truly in need (the elderly, the widow, the disabled, & etc.), but for the able bodied, the best form of welfare is a job.

Feel free to disagree with the methods, but surely you can agree that stable employment is better than generational welfare.

 

[Use of Time]

Jobs. The ultimate goal is to stoke the economy to produce jobs. A safety net is good, and will always be needed for those truly in need (the elderly, the widow, the disabled, & etc.), but for the able bodied, the best form of welfare is a job.

Feel free to disagree with the methods, but surely you can agree that stable employment is better than generational welfare.

I don’t disagree but that isn’t a plan. I think most people on welfare do want jobs. That is obviously the self preserving goal of most on it.

 

[FollowTheWay]

I don’t disagree but that isn’t a plan. I think most people on welfare do want jobs. That is obviously the self preserving goal of most on it.

And actually welfare is somewhat of a misnomer. Medicare supports most retirees these days. I worked 40 years to pay for it. Fully 40% of Medicaid goes to people in retirement homes who would otherwise have to leave. I don't call either one of these welfare as it is commonly used, i.e. a handout to undeserving people.

 

[Revmitchell]

And actually welfare is somewhat of a misnomer. Medicare supports most retirees these days. I worked 40 years to pay for it. Fully 40% of Medicaid goes to people in retirement homes who would otherwise have to leave. I don't call either one of these welfare as it is commonly used, i.e. a handout to undeserving people.

So is your plan to help the poor and the needy simply to throw tax payers dollars at them unending or is there a plan also to help them get to where they can support themselves and no longer need tax dollars to get by?

 

[Use of Time]

So is your plan to help the poor and the needy simply to throw tax payers dollars at them unending or is there a plan also to help them get to where they can support themselves and no longer need tax dollars to get by?

Yes, you’ve said that. What’s your plan to help people support themselves? I’m guessimg you haven’t thought that far ahead. Most likely because you don’t care.

 

[FollowTheWay]

So is your plan to help the poor and the needy simply to throw tax payers dollars at them unending or is there a plan also to help them get to where they can support themselves and no longer need tax dollars to get by?

My plan right now is to provide for those that are deserving. That i

Yes, you’ve said that. What’s your plan to help people support themselves? I’m guessimg you haven’t thought that far ahead. Most likely because you don’t care.

Do you plan to take away retirement medical for everyone who's retired in the last 5 years and in the future? Do you plan to kick the 60% of seniors currently in retirement homes out on the street. Why do you support throwing more money at the military when they can't account for $8-$11T in past funding right now?