Babylon to Pentecost. God's long game? Seeds of the Gospel to the Gentiles.

[Dave...]

Heard in a lo....ove song. No, But I did hear it on youtube.

Heard this in a youtube teaching recently, and thought I would run it by you people and see what you think. Most of this I knew already, but the part about the long game I had never pieced together before. Some of the stuff at the end of this post also that I'm not even sure if it's accurate, but it sounds right. As it goes, The Jews of Babylon were scattered with languages confused for trying to storm heaven by way of the Tower of Babylon. But these same Jews were part of God's plan to bring the Gospel to the Gentile nations after Pentecost. The dispersions added these Jews to many of the surrounding Gentile nations. Later, at Pentecost, all of these Gentile nations were represented by Jews from those nations who heard the Gospel and believed. These were part of the three thousand who believed, and when they retuned to their Gentile nations, they took with them the seeds of the Gospel. This was right after Pentecost.

Countries represented...

Acts 2 5-12 And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, "Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs--we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God." So they were all amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, "Whatever could this mean?"

38-41 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call." And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation." Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.

BTW, The languages was also a sign of judgment for these Jews.

Which takes Paul's point in Romans about God's chastising of the Jews being meant for a blessing to the Gentiles as going all the way back to Babylon, at least in it's planning stages. This was really cool to see and I wonder if Paul was aware of this. Paul was specifically missioned to take the Gospel to all these Gentile nations.

Romans 11 NKJV - "I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainl..."

Read Romans 11 NKJV in the New King James Bible: "I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin"

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The study that I heard also went into how the twelve tribes and the 144 thousand will come from these nations. This is where I'm weak in understanding and any insight would be helpful.

Anyways, if this guy is a quack, I don't know. If you care to listen to this, it's up to you. I did, and this is how this thread came to be. He gets deeper into the latter part than I did. About 17 minutes long.

 

[Ben1445]

As it goes, The Jews of Babylon were scattered with languages confused for trying to storm heaven by way of the Tower of Babylon.

I watched it and I didn’t hear that at all. I might have been distracted once or twice but I didn’t hear it.
He mentioned Babel and the confusion of language, but the Jews are the children of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. They didn’t exist at Babel. They came afterwards. Heber is the fourth generation from Noah. Abraham is the tenth from Noah (Luke 3).
The dispersion of the Jews that he mentioned was at the fall of the northern and southern kingdoms.

But these same Jews were part of God's plan to bring the Gospel to the Gentile nations after Pentecost. The dispersions added these Jews to many of the surrounding Gentile nations.

This explains going to the synagogues first. Who put the synagogues there? The scattered Jews, of course.

 

[Dave...]

I watched it and I didn’t hear that at all. I might have been distracted once or twice but I didn’t hear it.
He mentioned Babel and the confusion of language, but the Jews are the children of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. They didn’t exist at Babel. They came afterwards. Heber is the fourth generation from Noah. Abraham is the tenth from Noah (Luke 3).
The dispersion of the Jews that he mentioned was at the fall of the northern and southern kingdoms.

Hey Ben.

Noah's descendants, right? So these would be Gentiles.

This explains going to the synagogues first. Who put the synagogues there? The scattered Jews, of course.

Yeah, there were also Gentiles with the Jews at Pentecost. I figured they were converted to Judaism, OT Jews. Acts makes note of them as proselytes.

2:10 "both Jews and proselytes" But these proselytes were from Rome, not all the nations.

Well that blows a hole in that whole theory. I mean, there's still a long game, but if the connections that I gathered from that video are not accurate, then so be it. That's why I ran it by you guys. Pentecost was still an undoing of the confusion from Babylon, just not with the Jewish connection starting from Babylon. And Paul's Romans 11 then would not apply to a connection between Babel and Pentecost.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Dave