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Because of Mercy from Everlasting

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by savedbymercy, Apr 28, 2015.

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    Ps 103:17

    But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

    Rom 9:23

    And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

    We know and understand that God designed this world for a Redemptive Purpose in Christ, which involved sin, because of what we read in Ps 103:17

    But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

    Now how could God's Mercy be from Everlasting, unless it was Purposed upon some from Everlasting, and Mercy finds its objective cause from sin and misery, the publican cried Lk 18:13

    13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

    You see, it was from Everlasting that God established Chosen Vessels of Mercy Rom 9:23

    23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

    John Gill comments on Ps 103:17 :

    Now the word mercy here in Ps 103:17 is the hebrew word checed:

    It means favour and is translated as Covenant Loyalty,

    http://biblehub.com/interlinear/psalms/103-17.htm

    So this Favor, Covenant Loyalty or Faithfulness is From Everlasting, which indicates its the fruit of the Everlasting Covenant, It was due to a Covenant of Peace Isa 54:10

    10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the Lord that hath mercy on thee.

    That Mercy from Everlasting Ps 103:17 is the fruit of this Covenant of Peace, Its for the Vessels of Mercy, they were Chosen in Christ before the foundation, in the Eternal Purpose of Christ Eph 3:11, and it was God's purpose to imprison them into unbelief/sin in pursuit of this Mercy, to have Mercy upon all the Vessels of Mercy Rom 11:32

    32 For God hath concluded them all[The Vessels of Mercy] in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
     
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    Christ our Surety from Everlasting, so Justified the same !

    Christ , if He died for us was Our Surety Heb 7:22

    22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

    Christ shedding His Blood was out of a Suretyship responsibility to a better covenant or testament Matt 26:28

    28 For this is my blood of the new/better testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

    The many here are them He was made a surety for !

    Now the question is, when did Christ become their Surety ? It was before the foundation of the world, thats why we have scriptures like 1 Pet 1:20

    20 Who verily was foreordained[to die] before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

    Rev 13:8

    8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    He was slain in His Suretyship Purpose from the foundation of the World, meaning though He had not already in time died, yet it had already before time been detrmined that He would die as a Surety, so Jesus said Lk 22:22

    And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!

    It had been determined by the Eternal Counsels of the Godhead that Christ would come and die a Surety Death for the sins of God's Chosen People, those Chosen in the Surety before the foundation Eph 1:4.
     
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    Christ our Surety from Everlasting, so Justified the same !2

    As Our Covenant Surety, it was agreed upon from Everlasting in the Eternal Counsel/Purpose of the Godhead Eph 3:11

    11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

    Notice that this purpose was in the Mediator Surety Christ Jesus ! Christ Jesus is His Mediator designation like here 1 Tim 2:5

    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    And also here 2 Tim 1:9

    9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus The Mediator Surety before the world began,

    It was agreed upon from everlasting that when Gods Chosen People would become guilty debtors to His Law by their sin and disobedience, that instead of them having to pay that sin debt, Christ would in their place pay the debt they incurred against God.

    This Suretyship agreement went something like along the lines of that which Paul had with Philemon, who had a runaway slave, that Paul had met, which he became a believer through Pauls Ministry of the Gospel, and upon the slave returning to his master, Paul said these words Philemon 1:18-19

    18 If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account;

    19 I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides.

    You see that ? To put any wrong doing he had done against him, to put it on Pauls account, so Paul could repay it ! Thats the Principle of Suretyship that Christ was made for them He died for !

    Christ unto the Father was made Surety for the sins of God's Elect, the Sheep, when they would sin in Adam initially and then in themselves as they are born physically into the world dead in trespasses and sins, even as others.

    In the Eternal Purpose in Christ Jesus Eph 3:11 Christ was their Surety before the foundation, their sin in Adam and all their own sins had already been realized beforehand in God's Purpose and Charged to His Account, and so they for all intents and purposes were already in the Purpose of God Justified from them before they ever happened, by Suretyship agreement, which equates to Eternal Justification !
     
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    Because of Mercy from Everlasting 2

    God from Everlasting had decreed Mercy for the Elect of God, in that when the Elect sinned in Adam, it was according to a preordain Purpose of Mercy, for they had already been designated Vessels of Mercy aforetime Rom 9:23​

    23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

    God before the foundation had purposed their regeneration accorfing to His Mercy Titus 3:5

    5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

    Regenerating Mercy was purposed for them from Everlasting Ps 103:17​

    17 But the mercy of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;​

    They fear Him from Regenerating Mercy, for by nature no man fears God Rom 3:18​

    18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.​

    This World was Created for a Merciful Purpose to display God's Mercy, not on all mankind, but upon the Vessels of Mercy, the Election of Grace !​
     
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