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Bible Inerrancy Poll #2

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Ed Edwards, May 29, 2004.

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What does Bible Inerrancy mean to you?

  1. -1 the Bible has errors (i.e. is NOT inerrant)

    8 vote(s)
    8.0%

  2. 0 the Bible has minor errors but is still useful

    10 vote(s)
    10.0%

  3. 1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues

    19 vote(s)
    19.0%

  4. 2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal, historic, and scientific

    49 vote(s)
    49.0%

  5. 3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs

    6 vote(s)
    6.0%

  6. 4 The Bible is inerrant only in the KJV1611 Authorized Version

    2 vote(s)
    2.0%

  7. 5 inerrant in any English translation based on the TR

    6 vote(s)
    6.0%

  8. 6 The Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  9. 7 the Bible is inerrant as applied by _______ (post person or group)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Ed Edwards

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    What does Bible Inerrancy mean to you?

    The results of the first Bible Inerrancy poll
    is shown in the next post.
    Please choose the highest number with which
    you fully agree.
    I'll try to make it so you can read the answers
    before you post.
     
    #1 Ed Edwards, May 29, 2004
  2. Ed Edwards

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    Here are the results from the first poll:

    Poll Results: Is your Bible Inerrant? (99 votes.)
    Is your Bible Inerrant?
    Choose 1
    -3 the Bible has many major errors and is invalid 0% (0)
    -2 the Bible has major errors so is only marginally useful 1% (1)
    -1 the Bible has minor errors and should be used with caution 1% (1)
    0 the Bible has minor errors but is still useful 5% (5)
    1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues 11% (11)
    2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal, historic, and scientific 12% (12)
    3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs 45% (45)
    4 The Bible is inerrant only in the Textus Receptus (TR) 3% (3)
    5 The Bible is inerrant only in the KJV 1611 (exclusive of translator notes) 4% (4)
    The Bible is inerrant only in the KJV 1611 (including the translator notes) 2% (2)
    7 The Bible is inerrant only in the KJB1769 and/or KJB1873 1% (1)
    8 inerrant in any English translation based on the TR 3% (3)
    9 inerrant in any English translation translated by dynamic equivalence 1% (1)
    10 The Bible is inerrant in all English translations 10% (10)
    11 inerrant as implemented in the Doctrine of the Church of England 0% (0)
    12 inerrant implemented in the US Republican Party platform 0% (0)

    [​IMG]
     
    #2 Ed Edwards, May 29, 2004
  3. Ed Edwards

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    There have been some votes.
    Thank you for voting.

    I am able to read the results BEFORE
    i vote.
     
    #3 Ed Edwards, May 29, 2004
  4. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you, first 10 voters.

    BTW, answer number one is a trick question.
    If you are a Baptist you are supposed
    to believe in an inerrant Bible.
    In fact, the whole poll is designed to
    show the varity of meanings that Baptists
    put on the concept of "an inerrant Bible".
    This forum "Bible Versions/Translations"
    is in a area called "Baptist DEBATE
    forums (Baptist Only). Only Baptists
    are supposed to be posting there.
    Oops, we have already found at least
    one non-Baptist (or perchance a non-Baptist
    Baptist, it is hard to tell) [​IMG]
     
    #4 Ed Edwards, May 30, 2004
  5. Paul of Eugene

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    Interesting poll. I was going to say the bible is inerrant as interpreted by me, but then I realized that would be an error . . . :rolleyes:
     
    #5 Paul of Eugene, May 30, 2004
  6. Ed Edwards

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    I don't have a problem with that.
    If i like your interpertation, i'll become
    a Eugene-ite :eek:
     
    #6 Ed Edwards, May 30, 2004
  7. Ransom

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    Ed, unfortunately your either-or poll has overlapping categories. For example, "The Bible is inerrant on all matters of doctrine, history, and science" (or however you worded it) is perfectly compatible with "The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs" (ditto). Also, "The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues" is fully true, but its position in the list might lead one to beleive that by voting for it, he was sympathetic with a moderate denial of inerrancy.
     
    #7 Ransom, May 31, 2004
  8. Ed Edwards

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    I thought i clarified
    that when i said in the instuctions:
    "Please choose the highest number with which
    you fully agree."

    I thought by wording it this way:

    1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues
    2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal, historic, and scientific

    That it implies:
    1. The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal
    issues ONLY

    or

    1. The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal
    issues BUT NOT historic, and scientific issues

    It is my personal belief that there is
    a difference between the two possions and
    that BOTH are legitimately INERRANT.
    And yes, there are some who believe one
    or the other.
     
    #8 Ed Edwards, May 31, 2004
  9. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you first 23 voters.
    Good turnout this holiday week-end past.

    I wish we could have Chicago rules [​IMG]
    vote early, vote often. But alas,
    we each only get to vote once per person.
     
    #9 Ed Edwards, Jun 1, 2004
  10. Ed Edwards

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    Here are the results of the first 23 votes:

    Poll Results: Bible Inerrancy Poll #2 (23 votes.)
    What does Bible Inerrancy mean to you?
    Choose 1

    -1 the Bible has errors (i.e. is NOT inerrant) 9% (2)
    0 the Bible has minor errors but is still useful 0% (0)
    1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues 17% (4)
    2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal, historic, and scientific 13% (3)
    3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs 48% (11)
    4 The Bible is inerrant only in the KJV1611 Authorized Version 0% (0)
    5 inerrant in any English translation based on the TR 0% (0)
    6 The Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations 13% (3)
    7 the Bible is inerrant as applied by _______ (post person or group) 0% (0)
     
    #10 Ed Edwards, Jun 1, 2004
  11. Craigbythesea

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    The overlapping of the categories makes the poll about as meaningful as a Swahili translation of the Bible would be to an Eskimo infant. :D [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #11 Craigbythesea, Jun 2, 2004
  12. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you, 31 posters.

    Craigbythesea, i've already heard your
    objections from elsewhere. This poll is
    labeled #2, it isn't exactly like #1.
    In six months there will be a #3. Constructive
    criticism would be to mention how the
    categories overlap and how that makes the
    poll less valid. If you just want to
    blow steam, that is alright also.

    [​IMG]
     
    #12 Ed Edwards, Jun 2, 2004
  13. HankD

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    Ed, I disagree with Craig, IMO this poll is quite revealing, especially the number of folks choosing # 3.

    HankD
     
    #13 HankD, Jun 2, 2004
  14. Ed Edwards

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    Wow, a dozen new voters [​IMG] :D [​IMG] [​IMG]

    And here is the new score:

    Poll Results: Bible Inerrancy Poll #2 (35 votes.)
    What does Bible Inerrancy mean to you?
    Choose 1
    -1 the Bible has errors (i.e. is NOT inerrant) 9% (3)
    0 the Bible has minor errors but is still useful 0% (0)
    1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues 17% (6)
    2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal, historic, and scientific 17% (6)
    3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs 43% (15)
    4 The Bible is inerrant only in the KJV1611 Authorized Version 6% (2)
    5 inerrant in any English translation based on the TR 0% (0)
    6 The Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations 9% (3)
    7 the Bible is inerrant as applied by _______ (post person or group) 0% (0)

    Somehow half of us seem to like #3:
    3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs 43% (15)

    [​IMG]
     
    #14 Ed Edwards, Jun 2, 2004
  15. Ed Edwards

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    Oops, i put this on
    another topic:

    Yes, Bro. HankD, it is interesting how half the
    folks here vote for:

    "3 The Bible is inerrant
    in the original autographs 43% (15)"

    I see two problems.

    1. We don't have the original autographs. I want
    to have the inerrant Bilbe IN MY HAND.
    (And I do, which ever faithful translation
    I have in my hand).
    So I voted my convictions which is:
    "6 The Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations 9% (3)"

    2. Just kidding' about 2 probvlmes
    did you know the KJV New TEestament
    soruces disagree with each other?
    37 variants are documented in the New Testament
    by the original King James Version translators.
    This document is found in faithful renditions
    of the King James Version like the KJV1611 Edition
    and the KJV1873 edition. Even some "don't mention that there
    are various versions of the KJV" are still honest about
    the translator sidenotes (footnotes).

    [​IMG]
     
    #15 Ed Edwards, Jun 3, 2004
  16. HankD

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    I might have voted this one Bro Ed. but I personally need qualifications abround the word "faithful".

    It is so very subjective to me that I had to play it safe with # 3.

    [​IMG]

    HankD
     
    #16 HankD, Jun 4, 2004
  17. Ed Edwards

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    This poll gets no votes when on page 2
    of the index. Now it will be on
    page 1 of the index ;)
     
    #17 Ed Edwards, Jun 13, 2004
  18. Ed Edwards

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    Amen, Brother Ed!

    And now there are some new persons.
     
    #18 Ed Edwards, Jul 13, 2004
  19. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you for voting today.

    The last eight votes:

    * 1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues 16% (7)
    *** 2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal,
    historic, and scientific 21% (9)
    *** 3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs 42% (18)
    * 6 The Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations 9% (4)
     
    #19 Ed Edwards, Jul 13, 2004
  20. Bro Tony

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    You know what gives me a great chuckle at the end of my day, Bro Ed? To see how you can be perfectly content and excited about talking to yourself. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Bro Tony
     
    #20 Bro Tony, Jul 13, 2004
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