Bishops

Doc ... where does Trustee fit in here?

 

I sure feel sorry for those poor, ignorant, uneducated and probably retarded translators of the KJV! They got just about everything wrong (at least according to Dr. Bob). It is really too bad Dr. Bob was not there to straighten them out about their "mistranslations!" While he is at it, perhaps Dr. Bob could also straighten out the publishers of just about every English language dictionary presently in print, for just about all of them agree with the KJV translator's word choices!<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>Pastor: a shepherd. American Heritage Dictionary <LI>Elder: 1. An older person. 2. An older, influential member of a family, tribe, or community. 3. One of the governing officers of a church, often having pastoral or teaching functions. American Heritage Dictionary<LI>Bishop: Middle English bisshop, from Old English bisceop, from Late Latin episkopas, an overseer. Merrian-Websters<LI>Preacher: One who preaches, especially one who publicly proclaims the gospel. American Heritage<LI>Minister: one who functions as a minister of religion giving aid and assistance, as a servant. Meriam Webster<LI>Deacon: one who serves in worship, pastoral care, or administrative duties. Meriam Webster[/list]Dr. Bob, now that you have all those stoopid KJV translators (and KJV users) straightened out don't you think it is time to go after all those ignorant and stoopid dictionary publishers and users for agreeing with that terrible KJV&gt;

[ August 03, 2001: Message edited by: Thomas Cassidy ]

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lorelei:
but is the elder (Bishop) the same as the Pastor or not??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes. The word "Bishop" speaks of the authority of the office of Pastor, IE, "overseer." The word "Elder" speaks of the dignity of the office, a mature man with the wisdom of the years. "Pastor" speaks of the function of the office, to lead and feed the flock. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>How come sometimes deacon was defined as servant and others as an office?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The Pastor is to be a "servant" of the Lord and of the church, but there is also an office of deacon who is also a servant of the Lord and the church whose primary job is to take over the mundane tasks of the daily operation so the pastors can give themselves over to study and prayer. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>What do I want..I want to know how we got from there (New Testament Church) to here (Baptist Church Structure).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think most of us are still there. The problem is that we have allowed non biblical "churches" to redefine the terms. I am the Bishop of First Baptist Church of Spring Valley. I serve as overseer. I have other men who assist me in the work here. Some hold the office of deacon, some have held pastoral positions. Two of my men, one a deacon and the other not, are former pastors or assistant pastors who help me in performing my pastoral duties. I have another two men who are deacons who take care of the buildings, grounds, etc., so I don't have to worry about it.

 

Let’s continue this thought … can a man hold the position of Deacon and be divorced and remarried?

Stephen

 

Sure if he is a "one woman man."

 

Our church places the same restriction on deacons as we do on pastoral staff. No divorce/remarriage allowed by either the man or the woman. We believe the choicest servants of God should be examples in word and deed.

 

i checked the KJV concordance and did not find the word missionary. so which root word did it came from?

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dr. Bob Griffin:
Then that is the same fallacy decried by Dr. C in an early post - that we are allowing others to set the standards and definitions for us. We should look to the Word of God for the rule for faith and practice.

(Thomas, we DO appreciate what you and your church do and the position you take. WE take the opposite. Rightness or wrongness of the position will find its answer in the Word!)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Wrong! (Again!) We believe in the independence and autonomy of the local church. Our church has studied the scriptures, sought the Lord's illumination, and made a cooperative decision on the matter. To say that is a fallacy is to violate the autonomy of the local church, one of the corner stones of the IFB faith! No Baptist Popes allowed!