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Bought versus Redeemed

its ok friends if I get banned for sharing the truth--what will you do in the day of judgment ban God also :godisgood::godisgood:

Instead of offering truth to the post I used on Fire--you get out the ban hammer--its much easier for you that way- God Bless You All :)



Banishment for what, expressing an opinion? If someone can be banished for that, this is not a Baptist forum, and that is my opinion.

This message board has determined that the ME doctrine, and anything that even alludes to a "unversalist salvation", to be heresies, and will not be tolerated to any degree. I know of no orthodox "systematic theology" that will accept these as being sound in their teaching.

I wish to see no one banned, but to keep membership here, we all must abide by their rules. If not, any, and all of us, will get the "ole heave ho". They're not my rules, but I must abide by them.
 
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Thomas Helwys

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This message board has determined that the ME doctrine, and anything that even alludes to a "unversalist salvation", to be heresies, and will not be tolerated to any degree. I know of no orthodox "systematic theology" that will accept these as being sound in their teaching.

I wish to see no one banned, but to keep membership here, we all must abide by their rules. If not, any, and all of us, will get the "ole heave ho". They're not my rules, but I must abide by them.

What's the "ME doctrine?"
 

RLBosley

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And to say that means you are ignorant of Christian history, which I am not. Perhaps you should study the Alexandrian school of early Christianity.

Studied it some (though sure not as much as you:love2::rolleyes:) and I would say that most of the ancient Alexandrian (Origen for example) theologians are not orthodox.
 

Van

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1) Yes, there can be a difference between bought and redeemed. If I buy an oil lease, the oil has been bought with a price, but where is the oil. Still in the ground, therefore not extracted for the purpose of redemption. The Greek word has a range of meaning including bought, bought as in an oil lease, and redeemed as in extraction from being in Adam and transferred to being in Christ.

2) Yes, mankind was bought with a price, Christ laid down His life as a ransom for all. But this "ownership" does not equate with salvation. Only those who receive the reconciliation benefit from the reconciliation purchased on the cross.

3) The premise is that we are bought but not necessarily redeemed. Christ provided reconciliation to life for all mankind, but not all mankind has "received" the reconciliation. Therefore to keep the distinction clear, those redeemed have received the reconciliation. Those not redeemed are indeed consigned to Hades/Gehenna. They wee bought but not extracted and placed in Christ where they would have been saved.

4) Yes many verses teach we were bought, Christ paid the ransom, thus becoming the means of salvation. 1 John 2:2

5) Again the premise is mankind has been bought but only those God spiritually places in Christ are redeemed. Two different groups. The value of the reconciliation is that it provides the means of salvation for anyone placed spiritually in Christ. Thus the ransom provides the opportunity for salvation to all mankind so that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life, provided the individual "receives" the reconciliation.

2 Peter 2:1 says false teachers had been bought with a price by the Master, therefore to be bought with a price does not always refer to redemption.
 
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