Boycott Black Friday

[Crabtownboy]

Sad to say that Americans are so materialistic they now even Thanksgiving is being ruined. I have not, will not and will never go shopping on Thanksgiving or on Black Friday.

Keep Thanksgiving a day to spend with family and friends!

They're now as synonymous with Thanksgiving as turkey and stuffing: petitions asking retail stores to delay their Black Friday openings until after Thanksgiving, or at least until after the tryptophan has worn off. One of the latest opposing Target's 8 p.m. Thanksgiving Day opening pleads with the store to reserve the holiday for celebrations with family and friends.
Give it up. Thanksgiving is gone for good.

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2...y-ate-thanksgiving/?section=magazines_fortune

 

[church mouse guy]

I went out a couple of times on Black Friday years ago but I quit long before the person was trampled to death at WalMart a few years ago. Welcome to the post-Christian world. Some people are bitter at having to work on Thanksgiving Day. It won't be long before the after Christmas sales will begin on the afternoon of December 25.

 

[evenifigoalone]

The day after Thanksgiving I can understand, but Thanksgiving day itself should be a day to just relax and enjoy time with family.

 

[Crabtownboy]

The day after Thanksgiving I can understand, but Thanksgiving day itself should be a day to just relax and enjoy time with family.

Surely there are enough days in December for shopping.

Actually I believe Christians should stop giving gifts to each other and use that money on helping others. Commercialism has ruined Christmas. It is time for Christians to retake Christmas!

 

[evenifigoalone]

It makes perfect sense for the stores from a business point of view. And I personally don't think that's wrong as I support business. The money benefits the stores, which benefits the employees and overall the economy. Everybody wins, whether we see this in obvious ways or not. Supporting business gives people jobs, and I believe that does as much good as noble endeavors such as soup kitchens.

Good for you, but my view differs somewhat. I personally enjoy getting gifts for others, especially knowing them will enjoy them. I definitely support helping the less fortunate as well.

 

[Crabtownboy]

It makes perfect sense for the stores from a business point of view.

I agree, from a business point of view it makes sense. However, IMHO, from a Christian point of view it only feeds materialism and greed for material things. That I am opposed to.

And I personally don't think that's wrong as I support business. The money benefits the stores, which benefits the employees and overall the economy. Everybody wins, whether we see this in obvious ways or not. Supporting business gives people jobs, and I believe that does as much good as noble endeavors such as soup kitchens.

It gives the employees who have to work no time to rest, relax and to be with their families. Surely there are enough other days for shopping ... at least that is my feeling.

Good for you, but my view differs somewhat. I personally enjoy getting gifts for others, especially knowing them will enjoy them. I definitely support helping the less fortunate as well.

It is a personal choice. I came to my view as I grew older.

 

[evenifigoalone]

I agree, from a business point of view it makes sense. However, IMHO, from a Christian point of view it only feeds materialism and greed for material things. That I am opposed to.

That's a heart problem and because of that not much can really be done about it. For those who wish to boycott, you have every right to do so and even if I could stop you I wouldn't want to.


Personally I just...see it a bit differently, though. *shrug* I don't see any problem with buying things I know my friends enjoy, such as a book or movie or entertainment. I can see where some consider that questionable, but I just don't think it's wrong in and of itself.
That said, one of my friends is an artist like me and so I like to buy good quality art supplies for her...which seems a bit different to me than if I bought her a video game. Because art speaks to people and good can come from it. It can be used to spread good messages.
It can also be turned around...what if the things you buy help the person's spiritual needs, such as a devotional?
But that's just how I see it. There are naturally going to be different opinions.

It gives the employees who have to work no time to rest, relax and to be with their families. Surely there are enough other days for shopping ... at least that is my feeling.

Unless the business is closed on Thanksgiving (which arguably might be the best idea), someone has to do it.
That'd be mainly why I'm more supportive of the day after Thanksgiving than on Thanksgiving. Black Friday is a misleading name these days...more like black Thursday.

A lot of people are beginning to buy their black Friday stuff online. Online stores are getting to be where it's at.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

I personally enjoy getting gifts for others, especially knowing them will enjoy them.

You've got 363 other days out of the year to shop for them. Why should people have to forego being with family, friends and enjoying a full day of giving thanks and praise to our Lord and Savior, just because you want to shop? Are you willing to work that day so people can get the services they usually get from you the rest of the year. Soldiers, police officers, firemen, security guards, some other public servants -- they expect to have to work on holidays because their services are vital to public safety and the general well-being of their communities and nation. What's "vital" about getting a TV for "half price" -- particularly when that "half price" is about equal to what the TV sold for eight months ago?

Sorry, but that's selfish, and you should reconsider your position.

 

[evenifigoalone]

You've got 363 other days out of the year to shop for them. Why should people have to forego being with family, friends and enjoying a full day of giving thanks and praise to our Lord and Savior, just because you want to shop? Are you willing to work that day so people can get the services they usually get from you the rest of the year. Soldiers, police officers, firemen, security guards, some other public servants -- they expect to have to work on holidays because their services are vital to public safety and the general well-being of their communities and nation. What's "vital" about getting a TV for "half price" -- particularly when that "half price" is about equal to what the TV sold for eight months ago?

Sorry, but that's selfish, and you should reconsider your position.

Again, I don't support "black Friday" being on Thanksgiving day. On the other hand...should restaurants be closed on Thanksgiving, then? After all, you're keeping the restaurant employees away from their families. But there have been some years where eating at a restaurant on Thanksgiving was our only or best option due to circumstances.

And if I worked at a retail store and was told I'd be working on Thanksgiving, yes, I'd do it. I wouldn't like it, but I'd do it. And in that case my family might choose to celebrate Thanksgiving either the next day or the day before so I could be with them. It might suck at the time, but in the bigger picture I don't see it being that bad. Of course not everyone in that position is going to look at it exactly the same way I might.


Also, I've never gone shopping on black Friday and wasn't planning on it this year. I don't have the need to because I never spend quite that much on Christmas gifts, not to the extent of needing a special sale for save money on it all. I'm just not entirely against it.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

The day after Thanksgiving I can understand, but Thanksgiving day itself should be a day to just relax and enjoy time with family.

And watch football.

Anyway, team zero has fixed it so I have very little holiday shopping to do.

 

[ShagNappy]

Hope none of you watch football... I mean, those poor guys going out risking their health and well being, rather than being with their families on the apparent most "holy of holidays," all for others entertainment... why, it's like modern Gladiators.

Or does the amount paid when having to work on this holy holiday effect whether someone must work and be away from their families?

Also, please don't forget that can of chicken stock or to fill up your gas tank the day before. And don't drive anywhere. You might have car trouble and some poor wrecker driver might have to get up from the table and come tow you home. If your power goes out, don't report it until the next day. I have friends who will be on call that day and it would be awful if they had to leave home to get your power back on.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Hope none of you watch football... I mean, those poor guys going out risking their health and well being, rather than being with their families on the apparent most "holy of holidays," all for others entertainment... why, it's like modern Gladiators.

Or does the amount paid when having to work on this holy holiday effect whether someone must work and be away from their families?

Question: Are they working on Thanksgiving because they want to, or because they have to? Does a Wal-Mart stocker or cashier have that same choice?

Also, please don't forget that can of chicken stock or to fill up your gas tank the day before.

What makes you think those of us complaining about "Black Friday" being pushed forward into Thursday evening don't also object to the grocery stores opening on Thanksgiving morning? They didn't used to do that, either. If you didn't have your food by 5:30 p.m. Wednesday, tough.

And don't drive anywhere. You might have car trouble and some poor wrecker driver might have to get up from the table and come tow you home. If your power goes out, don't report it until the next day. I have friends who will be on call that day and it would be awful if they had to leave home to get your power back on.

Covered by the "public necessity" aspect we discussed earlier. Where were you?

 

[evenifigoalone]

What about restaurants? What category do they fall under?

There have been times in the past where my family has eaten at restaurants on Thanksgiving due to circumstances. If families are not able to cook for themselves for whatever reason or are not able to have dinner with someone else, eating at a restaurant is the next best thing.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

What about restaurants? What category do they fall under?

There have been times in the past where my family has eaten at restaurants on Thanksgiving due to circumstances. If families are not able to cook for themselves for whatever reason or are not able to have dinner with someone else, eating at a restaurant is the next best thing.

The Kansas City Star did a story on this last year. The restaurants around here, at least, ask for volunteers, and only require four hour shifts for wait staff, kitchen personnel and bussers. That way, everyone who wants to work gets some work, but they don't have to give up their whole holiday.

 

[ShagNappy]

Question: Are they working on Thanksgiving because they want to, or because they have to? Does a Wal-Mart stocker or cashier have that same choice?

They sign contracts. Most are recruited in the draft where they have no choice of where they go. They are signed in to contracts with no knowledge of when or where they will play. If they do not show up for the game they can be fined and or fired. Many players, throughout their careers can also be traded against their will and have little to no say in the matter. Not everyone is Manning or Brady. 99% are not.

Covered by the "public necessity" aspect we discussed earlier. Where were you?

Your comfort is NOT a necessity. You will survive until morning. You driving to grandma's house is NOT a necessity.

It is all about what matters to you on a day that is not even a holy day to begin with. And what others do on that day matters not one bit, nor effects you one bit.

 

[Revmitchell]

Walmart: The extreme far lefts favorite whipping boy for no good cause.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

They sign contracts. Most are recruited in the draft where they have no choice of where they go. They are signed in to contracts with no knowledge of when or where they will play.

Do they know, prior to signing that contract, they will play on holidays? How about on Sundays? Sorry, doesn't wash. They want to play football, wherever, whenever,however. Wal-Mart employees don't have a choice.

Not everyone is Manning or Brady. 99% are not.

League minimum under the current CBA is $405,000 for a rookie, $940,000 for a ten-year veteran. MINIMUM!! Cry me a river.

Your comfort is NOT a necessity. You will survive until morning. You driving to grandma's house is NOT a necessity.

No, but my cousin's fire truck, my nephew's police car -- those are necessities. And don't give me the song and dance about the city gas depot. Hundreds of small towns have their police cars and fire trucks filled up at Quik Trip.

It is all about what matters to you on a day that is not even a holy day to begin with.

Sorry, but if you don't think Thanksgiving is a holy day, then you're very out of touch with reality.

And what others do on that day matters not one bit, nor effects you one bit.

As I mentioned, I've family in key roles of public safety. It does matter to me, and the right of a person to be with family on a holiday is, among others, what this country was established to accomplish.

 

[Revmitchell]

Personally I am going to boycott boycotters who boycott ridiculous things. :thumbs::thumbs:

 

[Alcott]

Yes, boycott Black Friday. And White Friday too, if there be one.

 

[ShagNappy]

League minimum under the current CBA is $405,000 for a rookie, $940,000 for a ten-year veteran. MINIMUM!! Cry me a river.

So, how much they get paid does matter. You finally answered a question. So, it's not really about people not being with family...

Sorry, but if you don't think Thanksgiving is a holy day, then you're very out of touch with reality.

Book, chapter, verse... else it is a man made holiday created by the urging of a few articles by a nice little lady named Sarah.


If your cousin in his fire truck is out climbing poles restoring your power... well, only you friend. Same for your nephew in his police car. But good job on deflecting and not addressing what I actually said.