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Bush and his flip flops on Osama Bin Laden

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by ASLANSPAL, Nov 19, 2005.

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  1. ASLANSPAL

    ASLANSPAL New Member

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    He needs to capture or execute Osama Bin Laden now to save his presidential legacy ...his lashing out at other Americans and trying to stir up division has been nakedly seen through...sad.

    But you wonder what level of incompetence he has
    reached with these flip flops.


    Bush quotes on Osama Bin Forgotten (a study in contrasts):
    "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." — 9/13/01

    "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" —9/17/01

    "...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."—Crawford TX, 12/28/01

    "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."—3/13/02

    "I am truly not that concerned about him."—3/13/02

    "I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."—3/13/02

    "Uhh—Gosh, I —don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those, uhh, exaggerations." — Tempe, AZ, 10/13/2004
     
    #1 ASLANSPAL, Nov 19, 2005
  2. hillclimber

    hillclimber New Member

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    Priorities change, but you don't seem to AP.
     
    #2 hillclimber, Nov 19, 2005
  3. Martin

    Martin Active Member

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    ==From a realistic point of view I don't think Bin Laden is that important anymore. Sure capturing him would be a big media circus and a big hit for the US but it would not solve any problems. This is now much bigger than Bin Laden (thanks to Iraq). So I see this as an evolution of policy based on the reality of our situation and not a flip flop. This is why we need to back away from political activism. It blinds us to the larger realities (ie...political activism causes people not to be able to see the forest for the trees).

    Martin.
     
    #3 Martin, Nov 19, 2005
  4. prophecynut

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    What happened to Bin Ladin:

    http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/
     
    #4 prophecynut, Nov 19, 2005
  5. poncho

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    Apparently Bin Laden's heir (Al Zarqawi) has his own hub of websites that the intelligence gurus and media can check to see if he claims responsibility just minutes after a bomb goes off somewhere.

    Strange they can catch all these people with child porn on their PC's and college kids hacking into the dean's computer and downloading music and such but haven't got a clue as to how to grab Goldstein's webmasters. :rolleyes:
     
    #5 poncho, Nov 19, 2005
  6. hillclimber

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    No kiddin'
     
    #6 hillclimber, Nov 19, 2005
  7. Rocko9

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    It's called --Staying the Course Hillclimber.
    Seems like I've heard that term before, oh yeah---- it was George Bush.
     
    #7 Rocko9, Nov 19, 2005
  8. emeraldctyangel

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    Except for the fact that the 'course' never has been just one man, else we wouldnt have a good number of people just like him in Gitmo at this very moment.

    Im all for getting Bin Laden. But to suggest it be done now rather than 3 years ago makes one believe people like A-pal really think this is all just sheer dramatic entertainment, fed to the evening news for your viewing pleasure.
     
    #8 emeraldctyangel, Nov 20, 2005
  9. Rocko9

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    Hi ECA,
    I don't think we should have ever given up on Bin Laden either. The President shouldn't have mis-spoke about Bin Laden not being a priority though.
     
    #9 Rocko9, Nov 20, 2005
  10. prophecynut

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    http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=94512


    More of Bush quotes:

    "I'm the commander - see, I don't need to explain - I don't need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the President. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation." - Bush, Washington Post, November 19, 2002

    "You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier."
    George Bush Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.

    (Governing Magazine 7/98)

    "A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it.

    George W. Bush 12/18/2000
     
    #10 prophecynut, Nov 20, 2005
  11. emeraldctyangel

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    hmmm chasing down a fruitcake psychotic murderer in the harsh regions of Afghanistan or taking out the bulk of the Al Queda membership in Iraq....

    Choices, choices, priorities, priorities.

    He cant hide forever. And the war in Iraq cant go on forever.

    Is it me or do people seem to hang on every word of the President?
     
    #11 emeraldctyangel, Nov 21, 2005
  12. Rocko9

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    _________________________________________________


    I quess it's only you , the rest of us know better than to take George Bush at his word.
     
    #12 Rocko9, Nov 21, 2005
  13. Daisy

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    Except there had been very, very little al Queda membership in Iraq back before we opened its borders - most of what there was, was in the Kurdish region allied with the Kurds against the Iraqi government.

    Yeah, get the folk who attacked us or go for the toothless tiger and win oil fields, a MidEast base and avenge Daddy.

    Why not?

    How long then?

    It's you. We are able to call up his past quotes easily thanks to modern technology.
     
    #13 Daisy, Nov 22, 2005
  14. Psalm 100

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    I would have to agree that capturing the man that put together the largest act of mass murder in the US is still a pretty high priority. Certainly moreso than invading a country on shaky intelligence and evidence from questionable informants.
     
    #14 Psalm 100, Nov 22, 2005
  15. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
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    One of these days the liberals are gonna get what they have always wanted, and I hope and pray that before that happens all my loved ones and me are dead and gone; or the rapture has ocurred!

    I DO NOT want any of us to be around when this country is fed to the wolves as a result of the liberal control freaks cedeing U.S. sovereignty to the UN, or China, or France, or whoever.

    It WILL happen, if and when the libs get control!!!!

    And what's more the pity is that most (all?) of the lib posters on this board will no longer be needed, and they will just be as cattle to be slaughtered at the pleasure of the elites! So much for their UTOPIAN dream!
     
    #15 just-want-peace, Nov 22, 2005
  16. Terry_Herrington

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    Well, I hope the "libs" get control in 2008! [​IMG]
     
    #16 Terry_Herrington, Nov 22, 2005
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