1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Can an Instrument be "Satanic"?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Dr. Bob, Jan 9, 2003.

  1. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2000
    Messages:
    30,401
    Likes Received:
    553
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Someone suggested a keyboard was "satanic". I've heard some play a clarinet and violin that I would sware was demon possessed! :eek:

    What do you think? I know Satan can USE any instrument, but we're talking about joe blow average keyboard or guitar or saxophone.

    Can such an inanimate object be "satanic"?
     
  2. Headcoveredlady

    Headcoveredlady New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2002
    Messages:
    1,388
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, since I was the one who made the comment I may as well go ahead and try to explain what I meant.

    On my keyboard there are various drum beats. Such as New Age, rock and disco.

    New Age: what is that? Is that from the Lord?
    Disco: what is that? Is that from the Lord?
    Rock music: what is that? Is that from the Lord?

    My point was that in my opinion these forms of music are not from the Lord but the enemy.

    Since you are a theologian you may be concerned that I did not use proper terminology. And maybe you are correct. But, I will stand by my original statements that I believe these forms of music are not from the Lord.
     
  3. John Miller

    John Miller New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2001
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    1
    I think that certain forms of music can be satanic. I also feel that any musical instrument can be used to glorify the Lord. It's like anything else, it all depends on how we use it.
     
  4. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    22,016
    Likes Received:
    487
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I have seen guitars painted with satanic logos, but the instrument, all by it'self, has no allegiance to satan.

    So I will say no. Instruments aren't any more evil than knives, axes, guns, rope, paper, ink, candles, or fabric. Depends on how they are used. All can glorify God in the right hands.
     
  5. Rev. G

    Rev. G New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2002
    Messages:
    1,635
    Likes Received:
    0
    Are certain FORMS of music Satanic? No.
    Are certain forms of music poor? Yes.
    Is "the beat" a bad thing? No. All music (except for those with the poorest of forms) has a rhythm.
    Form can certainly eradicate the beauty of a song's lyrics (ever heard "Amazing Grace" to the tune of "Gilligan's Island"?), because the form / frame carries the message.
    The message / lyrics must also be considered. Are certain lyrics Satanic? Certainly!
    Are certain lyrics worldly? Certainly!

    Most of the "gospel songs" found in our contemporary hymnals were at one time the "pop music" of the day. Many argued against them because of the "beat" and so forth. There is certainly nothing new under the sun.
     
  6. Refreshed

    Refreshed Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    7
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I honestly believe an accordion is satanic. :eek:
     
  7. Mike McK

    Mike McK New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2001
    Messages:
    6,630
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've done and heard others do Amazing Grace to the tune of "Peaceful Easy Feelin'" and "In My Room" and I thought it was very beautiful.
     
  8. JonathanDT

    JonathanDT New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2002
    Messages:
    496
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, I swear the bagpipes are satanic. [​IMG]

    HCL, is classical music (Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, ect.) from the Lord? Why or why not?
     
  9. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    That was not the statement. The statement was:
    And everyone knew what was meant (or should have known) because of the examples given:
    Now that's a completely different statement than the one reported. No one said that a particular instrument was Satanic.

    However I will again assert that the one instrument central and sacred to the art of Voodoo is the drum. Wherever Voodoo exists, in any form, the use of the drum is essential in its practice.

    In contrast consider that the drum is noticeably absent from any description of the worship of Jehovah. And again consider that no one sought a drummer to relieve Saul of the evil spirit.

    No instruments whatever are described in New Testament worship.

    My question is, of what value at all are instruments in the worship of God?
     
  10. BrianT

    BrianT New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2002
    Messages:
    3,516
    Likes Received:
    0
    Neither is the absence of instruments described in NT worship. Instruments ARE mentioned in the context of worship in the OT, and in a positive way. Why should the opposite be true later?

    There are probably only subjective answers to this question. Mine are:

    - they can help keep a song organized, instead of becoming chaotic
    - they can be used as a way of thanking the Lord via a demonstration of the abilities and talents the Lord himself has given
    - they provide a form of creativity, allowing us in some small way reflect we are made in the image of the Creator.
    - music from instruments can simply be beautiful, enhancing the atmosphere of worship
     
  11. Ransom

    Ransom Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2000
    Messages:
    4,132
    Likes Received:
    1
    Aaron asked:

    My question is, of what value at all are instruments in the worship of God?

    What does it matter? You've demonstrated pretty clearly that your objection is not this particular red herring, but contemporary music in any context.
     
  12. Jim1999

    Jim1999 <img src =/Jim1999.jpg>

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2002
    Messages:
    15,460
    Likes Received:
    1
    I may object to drums in the sanctuary, but I would not label any instrument as satanic. My objection to drums is what they do to my hearing....yet, the tympany in Handel's Messiag=h is fabulous....so, I am a little wavy on this......I just dislike the drumming....maybe it is the drummers......pounding away in the service.

    Love music. So happy we use it to also glorify the Lord in worship.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  13. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    We spell it timpani down here. :D

    I'm glad you brought that up. I was wanting to draw a contrast between the use of timpani in an orchestra and the steady, driving rhythms beaten out of the more common drum sets.
     
  14. Jim1999

    Jim1999 <img src =/Jim1999.jpg>

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2002
    Messages:
    15,460
    Likes Received:
    1
    Aaron..I think you hit my problem on the head. I was in one church where they had a drum set, and it was barely noticeable....it complimented the rest of the band......What I object to is the complete dominance.

    the kettle drum can be either timpani or tympani.....comes from Latin tympanus...you had me worried for a minute. Thought I had lost my English.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    [ January 09, 2003, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Jim1999 ]
     
  15. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    9,405
    Likes Received:
    353
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I thought advertising was not allowed here. But I don't buy Jumbo Jacks anyway.
     
  16. Travelsong

    Travelsong Guest

    Of what value is the instrument of the human voice in the worship of God?
     
  17. Pennsylvania Jim

    Pennsylvania Jim New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2000
    Messages:
    7,693
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks, Dr. Bob!! All through elementary school and junior high I tried to play the clarinet, and I never could figure out what was going on with it!

    By the way, anyone know the true definition of a gentleman?

    (pretend upside down type):
    A man who can play the bagpipes but doesn't.
     
  18. timothy 1769

    timothy 1769 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    1,323
    Likes Received:
    0
    i've always considered accordians tools of the devil.

    [ January 09, 2003, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: am ha'aretz ]
     
  19. Ransom

    Ransom Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2000
    Messages:
    4,132
    Likes Received:
    1
    am ha'aretz asked:

    what do you think?

    Nice axe . . . but why is Gumby wearing a Pac-man mask?
     
  20. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Blast that Noah Webster! :D He changed a lot of the English spelling. Dropped the "u" out of honour, and reversed the r and e in theatre. I hope you don't think I was trying to correct your spelling. I was just having some fun with the differences between the English and us yanks. ;)
     
Loading...