Featured Challenging traditional Translation choices.

One of the most controversial verses in scripture is 1 Corinthians 11:3. Here is a traditional translation by the NASB95:
1 Corinthians 11:3 " But I want you to understand that [fn]Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of [fn]Christ."

The footnotes indicate "Christ" refers to "the Messiah" (thus God incarnate).

I am certainly not suggesting that the above choice, which is reflected in every translation I looked at, is wrong. But, in considering alternate possibilities, I wanted others to tell me why the alternate is not viable.

Here is a possible (based on just substitution without regard for the nuances of Greek grammar) translation of the verse:

Yet - I am willing - you - be aware -
that - the - head - of every - person -
is - the - Christ -
so the - head - of woman,
the - man - Christ - the - God,
also - [is] - head.

This choice says the opposite of every other translation by very well qualified scholars. Is there something in the Greek that indicates the traditional choices?

 

Thanks, but is not "the man" indicated as in possession of Christ the God, i.e. God incarnate? The "man" is single male as is Christ the God.

 

Thanks, I think I understand.

Thus, this version is consistent with Greek grammar:

Yes, I am willing you be aware that the head of every person is the Christ, even so the head of a wife is the husband, as God is the head of Christ.

 

Thus while each person's head is Christ, the wife models our relationship with God by acting under the authority of her loving husband, as we operate under the authority of our loving God. This helps to imbue our families with an understanding of doing for others based on love. For example, if you love God, you will keep His commandments.

Not exactly the mainstream view, but apparently consistent with Greek grammar.

 

Why do you post such obvious falsehoods? You do know that word is translated as person in many versions!! You should learn to accept truth, such as just because a translation fits with the grammar does not mean it is the best understanding. I made no claim my version was correct, only allowed by the grammar. In James 1:20 for example the CSB, LEB, and NET go with human. Others go with person such as CEB, CJB, and GW.

 

Complete nonsense, the Lexicons say the word is sometimes used to refer to a group including both sexes, i.e. people!!!

If you would take the time to study our word, then look at Luke 11:31, where our word is also sometimes translated as people, rather than just men.

The truth is older translations may have reflected the culture of paternalism, but the actual inspired message appears to teach equality in Christ.

 

Thus, this version is consistent with Greek grammar:

Yet I am willing you be aware that the head of every person is the Christ, even so the head of a wife is the husband, as God is the head of Christ

While each born anew person's head is Christ, the wife models our relationship with God by acting under the authority of her loving husband, as we operate under the authority of our loving God. This helps to imbue our families with an understanding of doing for others based on love. For example, if you love God, you will keep His commandments.

 

Rule 70!!

Note Martin did not even admit the word can indeed be translated as person. Nope, he just continues to push falsehoods. Next he might even deny that Christ is the head of born anew females. You never know with naysayers. They take no positions, but everyone else is wrong, and unqualified. He claims a person cannot read a lexicon presented in the English language without a special degree. Hogwash

 

1) Only a deceiver would suggest I believe husbands can be of any gender. Thus an effort to disparage without regard for truth.

2) Does Martin claim that Christ is not the head of every born anew female? He did not say. Thus deflection.

3) Does Martin claim females are unable to be wrathful?

Proverbs 21:9 It is better to live in a corner of a roof Than in a house shared with a contentious woman.
Proverbs 21:19 It is better to live in a desert land Than with a contentious and vexing woman.
Proverbs 25:24 It is better to live in a corner of the roof Than in a house shared with a contentious woman.
Proverbs 27:15 A constant dripping on a day of steady rain And a contentious woman are alike; ​

4) Martin tells us the inspired words could be better if another word was chosen. Then claims I pass myself off as an expert.

Basically a disinformation post, devoid of enlightenment.

 

1 Peter 3:1-6 seems on point, that external adornment (braided hair, hats, jewelry) are mere reflections of the inner person, respecting the existing culture, so as to not stir up strife, but presenting a gentle and quiet spirit, precious to God, and fostering godly behavior.

 

Why? All you post are "taint so" posts, devoid of truth. And if you are unaware of that fact we are not to stir up strife, God help you.

 

Here is an alternate translation of 1 Corinthians 11:3 that is apparently consistent with the Greek grammar of the text:
Yet I am willing you be aware that the head of every person is the Christ, even so the head of a wife is the husband, as God is the head of Christ.

The Greek word translated person is often translated as "man or husband" but can also be translated as "human" or "person" when the group in view contains both male and female, as in this case.

While each born anew person's head is Christ, the wife models our relationship with God by acting under the authority of her loving husband, as we operate under the authority of our loving God. This helps to imbue our families with an understanding of doing for others based on love. For example, if you love God, you will keep His commandments.