Change...but maybe not the kind Obama supporters expect...

[LadyEagle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Oiq2Ze4Mg&feature=related

Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (1936–1982) was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named "Hussein".

Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."

Barack Obama's Catholic school in Jakarta.

The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school." A blogger who goes by "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" found that "Barack Hussein Obama was registered under the name ‘Barry Soetoro' serial number 203 and entered the Franciscan Asisi Primary School on 1 January 1968 and sat in class 1B. … Barry's religion was listed as Islam."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=92AA0FD4-8EF5-4D89-B8DA-B8C74484FA91

 

[targus]

Even if he was raised as a Muslim as a child that doesn't make him one now.

Everyone was "something else" before being saved.

Why would Obama be any different?

 

[LadyEagle]

Quote from Barack Obama's book, Dreams Of My Father:
"The person who made me proudest of all, though, was [half brother] Roy .. He converted to Islam."

From 'Dreams of my Father', "In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school"
"I studied the Koran.."

From 'Audacity of Hope: "Lolo (Obama's step father) followed a brand of Islam ...."I looked to Lolo for guidance".

From 'The Audacity Of Hope, "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

From The Audacity Of Hope, "We are no longer just a Christian nation," "We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

From The Audacity Of Hope, "We are no longer just a Christian nation," "We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."

Excellent quote! He has pegged in just a few succinct words a truth America has been running from for decades.

 

[LeBuick]

Excellent quote! He has pegged in just a few succinct words a truth America has been running from for decades.

And yet many who won't see this or won't accept it as truth condemn him for speaking reality.

 

[just-want-peace]

And yet many who won't see this or won't accept it as truth condemn him for speaking reality.

Bolded mine

Does this apply to this quote from LE's post?

From 'The Audacity Of Hope, "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I would read the post to see what comment he is referring to. It is quite clear.

 

[donnA]

From 'The Audacity Of Hope, "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Now this is bothersome. If he's been amember of his current church for, what was it, 20 yrs, was this written within the past 20, I'm sure. Then if he's a christian, he will "stand" with the muslims, giving allegiance to muslims, not Christ.

 

[LadyEagle]

From the article above:

Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).

I wonder, like the author of this report, how many Nation of Islam people will be on staff or working at the White House, if Mr. Obama is elected:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_o.html

 

[righteousdude2]

Right On Lady Eagle, Right On!

I have never once bought Obama's claim to be a Christian. There are million, upon millions of people who say they are Christian, but never once mention their "re-birth experience." Obama is one of those who use the Christian label to gain the trust and vote of the majority of Americans. However, there are still millions upon millions of others, who like Obama, claim to be Christian, but never provide a testimony of when and how they were born again. In fact, these liberals sadly have NO idea of what it means to be "born-again!" The entire concept of being born-again is a foreign term to scores of Christians across America.

Lest we never forget, the road to hell is wide, while the road to heaven is narrow and not heavily traveled.

I continue to stand on my earlier prophetic utterance that Obama is a sleeper cell Muslim, and I can only hope and pray that his cell is not called to "active duty for the Jihad against Americans" while he is the president.

Finally, I see him appointing many Muslims, and radical/liberal Christians [i.e., Al Sharpton] to positions of high authority after he is elected to the office of president. God help us all if Obama is a sleeper Muslim, because he will be doing more than screwing around with White House Interns. A sleeper Cell Muslim as president could end up putting the screws to all Americans.

So, in closing, Kudos to Lady Eagle for her article and the supportive information. Lady Eagle, as well as myself could be way off mark when it comes to Obama, but, do you want to risk more than 200 year of American history on a vote for Obama?

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

 

[LeBuick]

I continue to stand on my earlier prophetic utterance that Obama is a sleeper cell Muslim, and I can only hope and pray that his cell is not called to "active duty for the Jihad against Americans" while he is the president.:

One thing that should help you sleep at night, if he does turn out to be a sleeper cell Muslim then he won't be president long. Each one of them have vowed to kill the leader of the free world. This means Obama would have to strap a bomb to himself and do his sworn duty to earn that special reward from Allah or he couldn't trust any Muslim who visited the oval office.

Let's be honest, how much damage can the president do on his own? Any law or changes to the countries operation has to go through the house. There are too many previous layers before his "pickle" is active in the "football". And we all know the CIA and FBI don't listen to executive orders as it is. How much harm can one man, even the president do?

I think the most he could do is "pimp out" the presidential limo, have the presidential chef start cooking soul food and hang some pictuires and what nots in the oval office. Other than that he would be impeached before he got through all the red tape...

 

[donnA]

I have never once bought Obama's claim to be a Christian. There are million, upon millions of people who say they are Christian, but never once mention their "re-birth experience." Obama is one of those who use the Christian label to gain the trust and vote of the majority of Americans. However, there are still millions upon millions of others, who like Obama, claim to be Christian, but never provide a testimony of when and how they were born again. In fact, these liberals sadly have NO idea of what it means to be "born-again!" The entire concept of being born-again is a foreign term to scores of Christians across America.

Lest we never forget, the road to hell is wide, while the road to heaven is narrow and not heavily traveled.

I continue to stand on my earlier prophetic utterance that Obama is a sleeper cell Muslim, and I can only hope and pray that his cell is not called to "active duty for the Jihad against Americans" while he is the president.

Finally, I see him appointing many Muslims, and radical/liberal Christians [i.e., Al Sharpton] to positions of high authority after he is elected to the office of president. God help us all if Obama is a sleeper Muslim, because he will be doing more than screwing around with White House Interns. A sleeper Cell Muslim as president could end up putting the screws to all Americans.

So, in closing, Kudos to Lady Eagle for her article and the supportive information. Lady Eagle, as well as myself could be way off mark when it comes to Obama, but, do you want to risk more than 200 year of American history on a vote for Obama?

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

You remind me of Jesus saying that many will come to Hima nd call Him Lord, and He will tell them to depart because He never knew them.
Lots of people who claim Christ are not christians according to Jesus.

 

[hillclimber1]

Good post LE. I wonder at the numbers of people willing to chance his election. Actually I'm amazed.

 

[LadyEagle]

Thanks. Yep, me, too. Amazed. :tear:

 

[KenH]

I am amazed at the number of people who are willing the chance the election of Senator McCain. His election as president could very well mean the end of the American republic. :tear:

 

[dragonfly]

I am amazed at the number of people who are willing the chance the election of Senator McCain. His election as president could very well mean the end of the American republic. :tear:

I understand. I fear that McCain is the head of an undercover moron cell. If elected he will unleash more ignorance on the American people than even his predecessor, Duba ever did. Actually this makes more sense that thinking that Obama is involved in some type of Muslim cell. How ridiculous. I am truly amazed that rational thinking people could believe such nonsense.

 

[donnA]

What I don't understand is why christians support someone who does not believe babies aren't people so murdering them is alright. I read where he beleives that if a baby is actually born alive during an abortion attempt they should still be able to murder it even though it is fully outside the mother's body, because it isn't a person anyway.
And christians support this?
That confuses me about people, how they can be christians and support this ungodlyness.

 

[KenH]

That confuses me about people, how they can be christians and support this ungodlyness.

Beats me. I think that all abortions should be outlawed.

 

[Revmitchell]

What I don't understand is why christians support someone who does not believe babies aren't people so murdering them is alright. I read where he beleives that if a baby is actually born alive during an abortion attempt they should still be able to murder it even though it is fully outside the mother's body, because it isn't a person anyway.
And christians support this?
That confuses me about people, how they can be christians and support this ungodlyness.

And who believes children can be a punishment if a pregnant woman gives birth.

 

[donnA]

Beats me. I think that all abortions should be outlawed.

yet you support a man who believes it should be legal, and did everythinghe could to make sure it was, to murder a live birth baby, which si being done.