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Chemistry Expert: Carbon Dioxide Can’t Cause Global Warming

Revmitchell

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Scarcely a day goes by without us being warned of coastal inundation by rising seas due to global warming.

Why on earth do we attribute any heating of the oceans to carbon dioxide, when there is a far more obvious culprit, and when such a straightforward examination of the thermodynamics render it impossible.


Carbon dioxide, we are told, traps heat that has been irradiated by the oceans, and this warms the oceans and melts the polar ice caps. While this seems a plausible proposition at first glance, when one actually examines it closely a major flaw emerges.

In a nutshell, water takes a lot of energy to heat up, and air doesn’t contain much. In fact, on a volume/volume basis, the ratio of heat capacities is about 3300 to 1. This means that to heat 1 litre of water by 1˚C it would take 3300 litres of air that was 2˚C hotter, or 1 litre of air that was about 3300˚C hotter!

This shouldn’t surprise anyone. If you ran a cold bath and then tried to heat it by putting a dozen heaters in the room, does anyone believe that the water would ever get hot?

The problem gets even stickier when you consider the size of the ocean. Basically, there is too much water and not enough air.

The ocean contains a colossal 1,500,000,000,000,000,000,000 litres of water! To heat it, even by a small amount, takes a staggering amount of energy. To heat it by a mere 1˚C, for example, an astonishing 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules of energy are required.

Let’s put this amount of energy in perspective. If we all turned off all our appliances and went and lived in caves, and then devoted every coal, nuclear, gas, hydro, wind and solar power plant to just heating the ocean, it would take a breathtaking 32,000 years to heat the ocean by just this 1˚C!

In short, our influence on our climate, even if we really tried, is miniscule!

So it makes sense to ask the question – if the ocean were to be heated by ‘greenhouse warming’ of the atmosphere, how hot would the air have to get? If the entire ocean is heated by 1˚C, how much would the air have to be heated by to contain enough heat to do the job?

Well, unfortunately for every ton of water there is only a kilogram of air. Taking into account the relative heat capacities and absolute masses, we arrive at the astonishing figure of 4,000˚C.

Chemistry Expert: Carbon Dioxide can't cause Global Warming | PSI Intl
 

Shoostie

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You lost me. Please elaborate. Thanks!

"In a nutshell, water takes a lot of energy to heat up, and air doesn’t contain much."

It's the energy from the sun, not the air, that primarily heats up the ground.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Like the windows of your car or greenhouse, it's clear to high-frequency energy (light), but opaque to low-frequency energy (heat). The global warming theory is that the sun heats up the ground and CO2 (released by burning fossil fuels) prevents the heat from radiating away.

Clouds are opaque to high and low frequency energy. During the day, they significantly slow the ground from warming up. At night, they prevent the temperature from dropping much. So, on very cloudy days and nights, it warms up only a little during the day and cools off only a little at night. Imagine someone trying to tell you that clouds have no impact on the ground temperature because clouds don't hold much energy.
 

church mouse guy

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"In a nutshell, water takes a lot of energy to heat up, and air doesn’t contain much."

It's the energy from the sun, not the air, that primarily heats up the ground.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Like the windows of your car or greenhouse, it's clear to high-frequency energy (light), but opaque to low-frequency energy (heat). The global warming theory is that the sun heats up the ground and CO2 (released by burning fossil fuels) prevents the heat from radiating away.

Clouds are opaque to high and low frequency energy. During the day, they significantly slow the ground from warming up. At night, they prevent the temperature from dropping much. So, on very cloudy days and nights, it warms up only a little during the day and cools off only a little at night. Imagine someone trying to tell you that clouds have no impact on the ground temperature because clouds don't hold much energy.

Clouds shade the earth from the sun so the analogy is not valid.

The Swedes are working on a missile that will lower the sun's temperature.
 
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