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China: Is this for real? Only "yellow" people?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    &lt;over the top link edited out - LE&gt;
    Buy American.

    [ March 07, 2006, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: LadyEagle ]
     
  2. rbell

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    The source has absolutely no credibility. Hal Turner is a white supremacist. He has made incendiary comments about blacks, Jews, and just about anyone who disagrees with him. IMO nothing he says is believable. One of his headlines (feel free to edit, mods) is:

    SAVAGE NEGRO KILLS 6 YEAR OLD WHITE BOY ON CHRISTMAS DAY!
    APE-LIKE ANIMAL WAS LIVING WITH WHITE RACE-TRAITOR W______ [read prostitute]! (May 2, 2005, Turner's Site)

    ---and---

    ADOLF HITLER WAS RIGHT in the way he allegedly treated the jews. They DESERVED whatever Hitler allegedly did and they DESERVE far worse! (Mar. 22, 2004, Hal Turner's web site)


    This guy has been penalized before for making untrue statements on the air. I wouldn't trust this site, nor would I dare point people to it. It is poison. Absolute filth.

    Do I worry about the Chinese and their communist philosophy? Yes. But it doesn't warrant quoting a bigot and a proven liar such as Hal Turner.

    LE, I don't know you at all, but since you are a moderator, I would hope that you would research someone like turner before linking to his site. No disrespect meant--it just would reflect badly on the BB, IMO.
     
  3. Squire Robertsson

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    When evaluating such stories both about Beijing government (aka the Forbidden City) and the Moscow government (aka the Kremlin), it helps to look at their historical actions. Both countries are empires. Both empires were larger in former days. Both more or less are keeping to their centuries old ruts.

    In talking about future aims of the PRC, keep in mind they do not have a blue water navy or a merchant marine large enough for such a sealift. If you look at the Fobidden City's past, you'll see it has for the most part been a land power. Yes, under the Mongols it tried to invade Japan. But that was an exception rather than the rule.
     
  4. StefanM

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    Such an attack would be bogus. If they ever tried it, China would turn into a big green desert within the hour. Additionally, a bio attack on that scale couldn't be done very easily, if at all.
     
  5. Squire Robertsson

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    And by the time they got here(see my comments on PRC sealift capacity), the former US would be occupied by Sooners from south of the Rio Bravo.
     
  6. KenH

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    I had not heard of Turner before and checked out his main page. He calls for the assassination of President Bush. I don't think I will be visiting his website again.
     
  7. Gold Dragon

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    It is amazing the lengths people will go to find or should I say create "evidence" of their pet theories.
     
  8. billwald

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    The Chinese must be listening to Coast to Coast www.coasttocoastam.com and the people who claim that we are developing bio stuff that only attacks Asian or black people.
     
  9. poncho

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  10. LadyEagle

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    Wow, thanks for pointing this out! I edited the link after checking the rest of this guy's site, and even though I tend to be radical sometimes, this dude is WAY WAY over the top. :eek: Again, thanks. [​IMG]

    Will do more research on this topic to see if it's for real, though.

    LE [​IMG]
     
  11. saturneptune

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    Lady Eagle,
    They are still a long term threat. They are on the back burner now with our "war on terror."
     
  12. LadyEagle

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  13. Gold Dragon

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    An fyi that Epoch times is a paper that primarily exists to criticize the Chinese government with particular emphasis on their persecution of the Falun Gong religion.

    It is definitely independent of the Chinese government, but I wouldn't call it a reputable news source.
     
  14. LadyEagle

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    Yes, definitely, we should just discredit them since they criticize the Chinese government. NOT!

    For things like this...
     
  15. poncho

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    SOURCE

    Declassified CIA document. Back ground of biotechnology. Below.

    http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/bw1103.pdf

    http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf


    Aljazeera
     
  16. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    On November 16, 2003, the Austin-American Statesman ran a book review by Kip Keller that claimed a report by the Project for the New American Century advocated the use of genetically targeted biological weaponry. Mr. Keller further suggested that individuals with ties to PNAC endorsed "genocide."

    Subsequently, we asked the Austin-American Statesman to correct the assertion that our report advocates biological warfare or genocide in any way, shape, or form. The Statesman refused to issue a correction, arguing that in the context of the PNAC report as a whole, it is somehow ambiguous whether the sentence in question proposes the use of biological weapons with genocidal potential. But there is no evidence in the report to support the Statesman's assertion:

    1. The report only makes reference to development of biological weapons within a discussion of worldwide trends.
    2. The specific context of the quotation cited in the Statesman addresses methods of warfare U. S. forces may face, not items or actions we recommend.
    3. Not one of the report's recommendations suggests that biological weapons should be developed, let alone used.

    We submitted a letter to the paper's editor, which follows.

    SOURCE PNAC
     
  17. UnchartedSpirit

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    well at least the Rastas arn't planning anything...right?
     
  18. poncho

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    Israel planning 'ethnic' bomb as Saddam caves in

    by Uzi Mahnaimi and Marie Colvin

    ISRAEL is working on a biological weapon that would harm Arabs but not Jews, according to Israeli military and western intelligence sources. The weapon, targeting victims by ethnic origin, is seen as Israel's response to Iraq's threat of chemical and biological attacks.

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    In developing their "ethno-bomb", Israeli scientists are trying to exploit medical advances by identifying distinctive genes carried by some Arabs, then create a genetically modified bacterium or virus.

    The intention is to use the ability of viruses and certain bacteria to alter the DNA inside their host's living cells. The scientists are
    trying to engineer deadly micro-organisms that attack only those bearing the distinctive genes.

    The programme is based at the biological institute in Nes Tziyona, the main research facility for Israel's clandestine arsenal of chemical and biological weapons.

    A scientist there said the task was hugely complicated because both Arabs and Jews are of semitic origin. But he added: "They have, however, succeeded in pinpointing a particular characteristic in the genetic profile of certain Arab communities, particularly the Iraqi people." The disease could be spread by spraying the organisms into the air or putting them in water supplies.

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    Dr Daan Goosen, head of a South African chemical and biological warfare plant, said his team was ordered in the 1980s to develop a "pigmentation weapon" to target only black people. He said the team discussed spreading a disease in beer, maize or even vaccinations but never managed to develop one.

    However, a confidential Pentagon report warned last year that biological agents could be genetically engineered to produce new lethal weapons. William Cohen, the American defence secretary, revealed that he had received reports of countries working to create "certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic-specific". A senior western intelligence source confirmed last week that Israel was one of the countries Cohen had in mind.

    The "ethno-bomb" claims have been given further credence in Foreign Report, a Jane's publication that closely monitors security and defence matters. It reports unnamed South African sources as saying Israeli scientists have used some of the South African research in trying to develop an "ethnic bullet" against Arabs

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    The British Medical Association has become so concerned about the lethal potential of genetically based biological weapons that it has opened an investigation, which is due to report in January.

    Dr Vivienne Nathanson, who organised the research, said: "With an ethnically targeted weapon, you could even hit groups within a population. The history of warfare, in which many conflicts have an ethnic factor, shows us how dangerous this could be."

    Porton Down, Britain's biological defence establishment, said last week that such weapons were theoretically possible. "We have reached a point now where there is an obvious need for an international convention to control biological weapons," said a spokesman.


    This article appeared in the London Times (November 1998).
     
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