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Christ and the Bible

Crabtownboy

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“It is Christ Himself, not the Bible, who is the true word of God. The Bible, read in the right spirit and with the guidance of good teachers, will bring us to Him. We must not use the Bible as a sort of encyclopedia out of which texts can be taken for use as weapons.”

―C. S. Lewis

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Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
Eph 6:13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.
Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
Eph 6:15 and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace.
Eph 6:16 In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one;
Eph 6:17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,
 
Crabtownboy

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Revmitchell said:
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
Eph 6:13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.
Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
Eph 6:15 and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace.
Eph 6:16 In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one;
Eph 6:17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,
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None of that negates what C.S. Lewis said.
 
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Crabtownboy said:
None of that negates what C.S. Lewis said.
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The entire Bible negates his statement. We live and walk, as Christians, in a Spiritual battle. Our tools for that Spiritual battle are found in the Bible. When sin is promoted the answer is all of scripture not just how liberals want to interpret the life of Jesus. All the words of scripture are inspired by God. It is not that just the authors of the books were inspired, and it is not just that parts of scripture were inspired, but it is that every word of scripture was inspired by God.
 
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SovereignGrace

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The bible testifies of Him, it is our spiritual food which we ingest, it is our 'code of ethics' which we are to live by.

C.S. Lewis spoke utter foolishness here.

We need the bible. He speaks to us through it. Without it, we can not learn about Him.
 
SovereignGrace

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Revmitchell said:
The entire Bible negates his statement. We live and walk, as Christians, in a Spiritual battle. Our tools for that Spiritual battle is found in the Bible. When sin is promoted the answer is all of scripture not just how liberals want to interpret the life of Jesus. All the words of scripture are inspired by God. It is not that the authors of the books were inspired and it is not just that parts of scripture was inspired, every word of scripture was inspired by God.
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Winner!!!!!
 
Scarlett O.

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CTB, wherever you got this quote from, they didn't relate his entire sentence about the bible as weaponry.

Here is Lewis' actual last sentence from a paragraph of one of his letters to a Mrs. Johnson on November 8, 1952.

"But we must not use the Bible (our ancestors too often did) as a sort of Encyclopedia out of which texts (isolated from their context and read without attention to the whole nature and purport of the books in which they occur) can be taken for use as weapons."

With that, I can agree. Cherry-picking from the Bible to beat people over the head with opinions is wrong.

But as the abbreviated quote that you cited from another source, I cannot agree. Your quote says the Bible cannot be used as a weapon - period.

Rev. quoted a passage that those the word is the armor of God and can be used both offensively and defensively in our spiritual battles.
 
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The Bible itself affirms, in John 1:1, that Jesus is the living Word upon Whom the written word depends and is derived.
 
Scarlett O.

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OK, I'll print it out....

Question: "How can Jesus and the Bible both be the Word of God?"

Answer: The phrase “word of God” appears often in the Bible and can have a slightly different meaning depending on context and the Hebrew or Greek word used. John 1:1 says, “In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.” Here, Word is a title of the Lord Jesus. The term translated “Word” is logos, which basically means “the expression of a thought.” Logos can be thought of as the total message of God to man (Acts 11:1; 1 Thessalonians 2:13). Jesus embodied that total message, and that is why He is called the “Logos,” or “Word,” of God (Colossians 1:19; 2:9).

Logos is also used many times when referring to the written message of God (John 17:17; 1 Timothy 4:5; Revelation 1:2; Colossians 1:25). Hebrews 4:12 says, “The word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.” Jesus showed a link between the written Word of God and Himself, in that He is the subject of the written Word: “You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me” (John 5:39).

Another Greek word used for “word” is rhema. Rhema refers to the actual spoken/written words of God (Hebrews 6:5). When Jesus was being tempted by Satan, He answered, “Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word [rhema] that proceeds from the mouth of God” (Matthew 4:4). We are told in Ephesians 6:17 to “take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word [rhema] of God.” Jesus demonstrated we need the actual recorded words of God to overcome Satan’s attacks.

The phrase “word of God” means more than the printed words on a page. God is a communicator and has been speaking into the human realm since the beginning. He speaks through His creation (Psalm 19:1), through ancient prophets (Hosea 12:10; Hebrews 1:1), through the Holy Spirit (John 16:13; Acts 16:6), through Scripture (Hebrews 4:12), and through the Person of His Son, Jesus Christ (John 14:9). We can learn to know God better by seeking to hear Him in every way that He speaks.
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Crabtownboy

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Scarlett O. said:
CTB, wherever you got this quote from, they didn't relate his entire sentence about the bible as weaponry.
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You are right. The quote I saw did not include the words you put in bold. They should have.

Here is Lewis' actual last sentence from a paragraph of one of his letters to a Mrs. Johnson on November 8, 1952.

"But we must not use the Bible (our ancestors too often did) as a sort of Encyclopedia out of which texts (isolated from their context and read without attention to the whole nature and purport of the books in which they occur) can be taken for use as weapons."
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Yes, I agree with this sentence. To cherry pick the Bible and use those verses to beat others over the head is wrong and a complete misuse of the Bible.

With that, I can agree. Cherry-picking from the Bible to beat people over the head with opinions is wrong.

But as the abbreviated quote that you cited from another source, I cannot agree. Your quote says the Bible cannot be used as a weapon - period.

Rev. quoted a passage that those the word is the armor of God and can be used both offensively and defensively in our spiritual battles.
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Armor goes on people. It is Christians who are prepared and have the armor. The Bible and the life of Christ is where the armor comes from.

Obviously the entire quote, as you have shown, does not give a good meaning to the Bible as a weapon. Thanks for point that out, and for supplying the entire quote.
 
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The "Word of God" and the "word of God" are not the same thing, any more than Charles Dickens and David Copperfield are the same thing. We have a Holy Trinity, not a Holy Quadrinity.
 
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