Christ Bears All for His People

[KenH]

"Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you."—1 Peter 5:7.

Yes, blessed Jesus, I would cast all upon thee: sins, sorrows, trials, temptations. Thou art the Almighty Burden-bearer of thy people; for the Lord Jehovah hath laid on thee the iniquity of us all. And as thou bearest all our sins, so thou carriest all our sorrows. And dost thou not bear all the persons of thy redeemed? Dost thou not bear all our troubles, all our exercises, all our temptations, trials, difficulties? The government is upon thy shoulder; the care of the churches is all with thee. And shall I not cast all my care upon thee? Shall I be careful for many things, while Jesus saith, "Cast thy burden upon the Lord, and he shall sustain thee?" Oh for grace to sit loose to all things, and to leave all things with thee. Lord, do thou bear me up when I am falling, support me when weak, uphold me against all mine enemies, carry me safe through a life of grace here—and, finally, bring me home to thy glory, to behold thee, and dwell with thee for ever.

- Robert Hawker, The Poor Man's Morning and Evening Portions, October 28, Morning

 

[Silverhair]

@KenH you have started a number of posts but what I have not seen is any of your own thoughts regarding the verses that they refer to. Perhaps you could forgo the copy past and give us your thoughts.

 

[KenH]

@KenH you have started a number of posts but what I have not seen is any of your own thoughts regarding the verses that they refer to. Perhaps you could forgo the copy past and give us your thoughts.

I don't think I can improve on what the devotionals have pointed out.

 

[Silverhair]

I don't think I can improve on what the devotionals have pointed out.

So you formulate your understanding of the bible from what some man tells you rather than from what the Holy Spirit shows you.

 

[KenH]

So you formulate your understanding of the bible from what some man tells you rather than from what the Holy Spirit shows you.

No.

 

[Silverhair]

No.

Well I see you quote a number of writers but see nothing from you. Do you not have an opinion of your own?

 

[KenH]

Do you not have an opinion of your own?

When I post a devotional or a commentary excerpt, then I am in general agreement with what the writer wrote in what I posted.

 

[Revmitchell]

So you formulate your understanding of the bible from what some man tells you rather than from what the Holy Spirit shows you.

I dont agree with Ken on much to include theology but I dont think this is a fair characterization. Any and all scholars study God’s word both in reliance on the HS and by reading the views of other well learned men.

With that said I agree he has displayed no ability to defend what he posts thru reason and careful argumentation.

 

[KenH]

With that said I agree he has displayed no ability to defend what he posts thru reason and careful argumentation.

 

[Silverhair]

I dont agree with Ken on much to include theology but I dont think this is a fair characterization. Any and all scholars study God’s word both in reliance on the HS and by reading the views of other well learned men.

With that said I agree he has displayed no ability to defend what he posts thru reason and careful argumentation.

I agree that we can use the views of other men but I was trying to get @KenH to be engaged and give his own view of the verse. It seems some on here depend upon others to tell them what a verse has to mean.

 

[KenH]

I was trying to get @KenH to be engaged and give his own view of the verse

Why are you so fascinated about wanting to know what my view is, as if it is going to differ from what I posted? Tell ya what, I'll help you out with some guidance: When I post a devotional written by someone else, you can assume that I agree with the gist of the devotional.

 

[Silverhair]

Why are you so fascinated about wanting to know what my view is, as if it is going to differ from what I posted? Tell ya what, I'll help you out with some guidance: When I post a devotional written by someone else, you can assume that I agree with the gist of the devotional.

Not fascinated with what your view is just think that if you actually had thought things through then perhaps you would have a view of your own and did not depend upon someone else to tell you what you should think. But from your answer it seems you do just latch onto what others say.

 

[KenH]

But from your answer it seems you do just latch onto what others say.

Considering how many posts, in which you and I, as well as Van and I, have gone back and forth and back and forth, in which I have used my own words as well as quoting from others' writings, I find it amazing that you would accuse me of such. The bottom line is that you just don't like what I post, regardless if I am writing in my own words or quoting from others' writings.

Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, just perhaps you should spend more time on substance and less time worrying about "I wonder what KenH thinks, I wonder what KenH thinks."

 

[Silverhair]

Considering how many posts, in which you and I, as well as Van and I, have gone back and forth and back and forth, in which I have used my own words as well as quoting from others' writings, I find it amazing that you would accuse me of such. The bottom line is that you just don't like what I post, regardless if I am writing in my own words or quoting from others' writings.

Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, just perhaps you should spend more time on substance and less time worrying about "I wonder what KenH thinks, I wonder what KenH thinks."

That is the thing Ken. We have gone back and forth on a number of things so when you just copy paste without any of your own thoughts on the words you have posted it does not lead to a discussion does it. Remember you said " you can assume that I agree with the gist of the devotional." so are you saying you have no original thoughts on what you disagree with?

Just doing copy paste without any of your own thoughts is just an exercise in starting as many threads as possible. But since that seems to be your level of engagement for the time being I will leave you to it.

 

[KenH]

so are you saying you have no original thoughts on what you disagree with?

I think you can assume that. If there was something that I had questions about sharing, then I would either not post the devotional or I would leave that part out with "...".

. But since that seems to be your level of engagement for the time being I will leave you to it.

Thank you.

 

[kyredneck]

Why are you so fascinated about wanting to know what my view is,

@Silverhair's out to get his 'fix'. He's looking for a Calvinist to lure into one of his rabbit holes so he can pummel them with quips, jabs, and insults.

 

[Silverhair]

@Silverhair's out to get his 'fix'. He's looking for a Calvinist to lure into one of his rabbit holes so he can pummel them with quips, jabs, and insults.

KY you just do not like it when anyone points out the logical and or factual errors of your philosophy. I do not attempt to pummel anyone but I do use the word of God to point out their errors.

But I do find it strange that you would complain about what I post as according to your Calvinist philosophy everything that happens has been predetermined or in your words ordained.