Silverhair
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Again BF you have to explain your position. Support your position with valid scripture. You have not done that BF.
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Again BF you have to explain your position. Support your position with valid scripture. You have not done that BF.
Silverhair
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Heb 2:9 ...Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
1Jn 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all,
1Ti 4:10 For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
Rom 5:6 ... Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5:8 ... while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Christ died for all BF so by your logic everyone will be saved. That is universalism.
Salvation is possible for anyone but it is potential salvation, if they do not believe they will not be saved.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already
Act 16:30 "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
Act 16:31 "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved,...
Rom 1:16 ...the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes,
Rom 3:26 ... so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
Brightfame52
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I already did, did you understand it ? Prove it
Brightfame52
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Which one of those verses utter the blasphemy you utter about making salvation possible or potential? Here is your blasphemy about Christ
Silverhair
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If you had proved it BF then I would not have disagreed with it would I. You saying it is what you claim it is does not help your case. You need clear biblical text and you have not provided that.
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Silverhair
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BF if you are going to use my words use all of them.
"Salvation is possible for anyone but it is potential salvation, if they do not believe they will not be saved."
Are people saved that do not believe BF?
What you are doing, BF, is dishonest and you know it.
Brightfame52
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What exactly did you disagree with ?
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Silverhair
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Your whole view BF. You have misunderstood why Christ came and what is required of man.
Silverhair
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And again BF you are cherry picking words. Read the whole sentence BF.
If you do your bible studies the way you respond to me then it is no wonder that you have such an odd understanding of theology.
The bible disagrees with your limited view BF.
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Brightfame52
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What is my whole view ?
Brightfame52
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You posted them, and they are blasphemous. If you dont want them to be read, dont post them. You have constantly posted those blasphemous words. Remember what Jesus says here Matt 12 36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Silverhair
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BF do you not understand what a sentence is?
The words I posted were only blasphemous in your calvinist mind.
The bible disagrees with your philosophy BF.
Trust the word of God BF not your calvinist false teachings.
Brightfame52
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I understand what blasphemy is against Christ
Silverhair
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So do I BF. What I said in that sentence was not blasphemy.
You are reading your religious [philosophy into the bible and thus you are coming to a wrong conclusion.
You have not dealt with any of the scripture that I posted:
Heb 2:9 ...Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
1Jn 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all,
1Ti 4:10 For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
Rom 5:6 ... Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5:8 ... while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Christ died for all BF so by your logic everyone will be saved. That is universalism.
Salvation is possible for anyone but it is potential salvation, if they do not believe they will not be saved.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already
Act 16:30 "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
Act 16:31 "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved,...
Rom 1:16 ...the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes,
Rom 3:26 ... so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
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