Christianity is not .......

So you don't think assurance comes from the Holy Spirit ? Of course you don't. You most likely think those who obey the bible do it out of ignorance.

Your post is nothing but an excuse hid behind pseudo-intellectualism to doubt scripture, and look down your nose at those who don't. You are definitely the pious, and smug one.

 

What does that even mean that Christianity is not about concrete answers? Hey! I have something contrete for ya:


Act_4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

There is no greater concrete propositional truth than that one right there. That is a truth and a set standard by which all men must and will answer too. It is in fact what Christianity is all about.


Anyone who wants to believe that Christianity is all about a journey and not about the set concrete propositional truths that determine what Christianity is are liberals and an apostate. Doubting the relevance and the need for the word of God and its concrete propositional truths is the exact opposite of what Jesus said:

Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


If you want to be free stop focusing on the journey and start focusing on the word of God. The hyper focus on the so called "journey" will only pull you away from God and His word.

 

You all are piling on unfairly. CTB never said he doubts scripture and I believe he would say the Bible is the inspired and inerrant word of God. And RevM, I will guarantee you are not at the same level of maturity you were when you first became a Christian. One day you are a rank sinner, next day you are a fully mature Christian. You know that’s not the way it works. Either of you go back to 1978, which is when CTB wrote this, and compare your 1978 selves with today. If you don’t think you’ve been on a journey you are either a fool or a liar.

And something else, not all of life's answers are found in the Bible. If they were we wouldn't have discussion and debate boards such as this.

 

You're wrong. In fact the op questions the authority of scripture and whether or not we actually need it.

If you think that the op is simply about growing as a Christian than you do not know what you are talking about. I have had these conversations. When we refuse set propositional truths and lift up the "journey" which is code word for "I cannot know anything for sure and neither can you and don't you insist to me otherwise".

It is the purest form of liberalism and it is ungodly.

 

Rev, I've always admired your conservative approach to scripture and to the culture, but you missed this one. Moreover, if that is the attitude you exhibit to those who disagree with you, I am glad you're not my pastor. One of us would have to leave and I don't think it would be me.

 

Well you are welcome to your opinion. However, you mischaracterize the disagreement here. It, in fact, is not just a simple disagreement over a trivial issue. When one tries to paint the Christian walk as being anything other than was God has said it to be it is not a trival issue.

So if you are going to talk about how we disagree then you need to include the level of the issue being disagreed over. Do not try to paint my disagreement as being this strong every time I disagree with anyone. It is just not honest.

If you were in my church and tried to use the language in the op that trivializes scripture and in fact almost dismisses its relevance then I can assure you, that you would not last here. This church like many stand very strong on the need and the relevance of the word of God. Trying to down play its importance to the Christian walk is not tolerated. That is as it should be.

Paul wrote to young Timothy:

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


And that is what we are seeing in the op. Our response to this thing is to preach the word, not go on a journey.

Our response to this type of teaching in the church is to put them out of the church.

You go ahead and stand by your journey. I will stand by the word of God.

 

Replace the phrase "a safe base" with "the only base" and I can agree with you.

 

There's also the false base of "New Insights" that contradict the word of God.

If I am truly in error on how I read your O/P, then please, tell me how it differs from your signature line and I'll apologize.

 

I don't believe in new insights period. And I don't believe the Holy Spirit reveals to us anything contradictory to scripture.

Why do you use the word "insights" instead of "revelations" ? Does God tell you things he doesn't tell others ?

 

Like I said, and stand on, and feel no more needs to be added, the Holy Spirit does not convict against God's word. God's word has one translation. God to man. Man does not get to talk back, question, or challenge anything in it.