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Christmas play

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by Sopranette, Sep 19, 2006.

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  1. Sopranette

    Sopranette New Member

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    We are begining to practice for our Christmas play, but I have big doubts if I even want to be in this year's play. The theme is a group of small children (played by adults) who are getting ready to do a Christmas play, but one child (adult) doesn't want to do it, because his mother had just passed away. All the actors are to dress like small children. There is no Christmas story even mentioned in the whole thing. I don't have an acting part, just a solo, so I don't have to dress like a little girl. The whole thing seems really absurd. Not only that, but no one knows the music for it, either. For the first rehearsal, I sat and waited to get my copy for what seemed forever. Finally one of the women hands me a copy, and my part isn't even known! I go to the second rehearsal, where I find out everyone is supposed to be child like, and I sit there for an hour not saying a word because STILL no one knows the song I'm supposed to sing. Well, I didn't attend the next one, because no one even had the courtesy to tell me if the song was ready, and I won't go until they do. Really! Usually, I'm very willing to volunteer, but I feel this is crossing the line. Opinions, please?
     
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  2. gekko

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    christmas is over-rated
     
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  3. Sopranette

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    "Xmas" is OVERRATED!

    Christmas is OVERRATED?? The birth of Jesus Christ our Saviour is now boring? We now have to come up with some ridiculous play to keep people's attention ? What about the true meaning of this night? What do you mean, exactly? Maybe I should have posted this in the Fundamentalist's board!
     
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  4. PJ

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    Sopranette, is the Christmas story presented in any part of the play?

    Hang in there. Different people have different styles of organization, as well as different depths of procrastination. ;)
     
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  5. FBCPastorsWife

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    Sopranette, it sounds like you may need to talk to whoever is in charge and express your concerns. You maybe should even talk to your pastor. It seems ridiculous to put on a production for Christmas and not even include the Christmas story. If you feel you are not comfortable with this it might be best to not participate.

    If you still want to be a part of it, maybe you can help whoever is organizing it get on track.
     
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  6. Sopranette

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    The whole play is about a child who just lost his mother, and now does not want to be in the Christmas play. There is no mention of the actual Christmas story in it. And I am just as shocked about that as I am of grown men and women looking like five year olds in church. Even the pastor's wife and MIL are in it. There are a few Christmas songs thrown in there, added in I might add, but the whole point of the play is how this boy's mother loved the Christmas "season" so much, he shouldn't forget how much fun it is. Suitable for TV, maybe, but not church. The whole thing makes me very uncomfortable. I think I might back out of this decision.
     
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  7. Joshua Rhodes

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    Talk to the person in charge first, Sop... if they don't know your concerns, how can they fix it/explain it/learn? As a choir director myself, sometimes I'm guilty of keeping the big picture from everyone else in my group unknowingly. When asked to clarify, normally there's method to what needs to be done. Just a thought.

    Also... you said in your post that no one knows the music yet... and then went on to say that you'd had two rehearsals. My choir sure doesn't get it after two... that's why we start in October. Give it some time.

    This seems like a bad attitude to me. Maybe there's something else wrong than what you said?
     
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  8. Sopranette

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    Yes, Mr. Rhodes,
    I was a little stung by the lack of courtesy (in my view), and had a bad reaction to it. I'm only human that way. I've gotten past that, now. But the play is still very strange, and I'm not about to tell the pastor's wife how things should be done! It's a new play that's just been published, that's why no one knows the music. But there have been many problems with our music since our pastor took over. For example, the choir has been cut, again! The other participants seem to be happy with this play. I'll just bow out this time.
    Our pastor is very young. He's only been running this church for a couple of years. Maybe that's the problem...I don't know. I love our church very much, but sometimes a real doozy of an idea comes along and I have doubts about this being the right church for my family. I would be sad to give up the fellowship we've formed, I've cooked, cleaned, sung, watched the nursery, etc, but we absolutely need good doctrine most of all.
     
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  9. PJ

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    Wow! :confused: I'm hoping things are not exactly the way that sounds.
     
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  10. Gayla

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    Quote:
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    Our pastor's ... only been running this church for ...


    Wow! :confused: I'm hoping things are not exactly the way that sounds.Today 01:45 PM
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    That's what I thought, PJ!

    Sounds like the music director is not very organized on this project.

    Do y'all use a pianist or soundtrack?
     
    #10 Gayla, Sep 20, 2006
  11. gekko

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    yeah. christmas is overrated.
    no the birth of Christ is not boring.
    yes you have made a play to keep people's attention.
    the true meaning of that night is not the birth of Christ - we all know that.

    focus on the ressurection rather then the birth. why make such a big deal about it.
    (oh i may get chewed on for that)
    Jesus was born of a virgin yes. nobody knows what day, nobody knows what hour.
    nobody knows what day or hour he'll be back either.

    why dont we have a celebration for the second coming of Christ? lets pick a day. I like summer - so lets make this new celebration August 5th.

    ok everybody. Aug. 5th is now the annual Second Coming Holiday. the next day after that is kinda like boxing day. cheap stuff - traffic everywhere.

    I dont have anything against the birth of Christ. dont get me wrong.
    but to pick a day and celebrate it?
    where's that in scripture?

    im sorry if i've offended anybody here. just call me a sheep-dog.

    God bless.
     
    #11 gekko, Sep 20, 2006
  12. Sopranette

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    The birth of Jesus IS the second most important celebration in a Christian's year. It's not about traffic and cheap gifts. We should tell the story every year to celebrate, honor, and keep it in people's minds. What about the kids? If we keep doing tacky plays like this, the true meaning will be lost on them. Every time I get up to sing I give Him my deepest heartfelt praise and worship.To do a silly play about Him is very disrespectable. Why are you so lacks on this subject? If you don't care, just say "whatever" and live with that. The second coming has not happened yet. What day do you propose? Holloween? Everybody seems to keep that day in mind, the day when Druids burned Christians.
    And yes, it is recorded several times in the New Testement scripture.
     
    #12 Sopranette, Sep 20, 2006
  13. gekko

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    and see. that's the problem.
    we make Jesus' birth into a celebration to get the kids to remember it and not forget it.

    parents should be teaching their kids this so that they dont forget.

    Jesus was born once. He is up with His Father right now. He is eternal - so a birthday party is not needed.

    "what about the kids? If we keep doing tacky plays like this the true meaning will be lost..."

    umm.. why do tacky plays in the first place representing and telling these kids a lie that Jesus was born on the 25th?

    why am i so slack on this subject? because you people (sorry for stereotyping) tell lies to these kids that Jesus was born on the 25th.

    Jesus was born yes. and that is where we should leave it at.
    Jesus was born of a virgin - did miracles - had a ministry - commanded us to be in ministry - died on the cross for our sin (sin... which most christians dont understand what it is) and rose from the grave defeating death.

    Jesus was born - lived - died - rose - and is coming back. leave it at that. cut the celebration for his birth.

    if you want to go into the meaning of halloween and the druids... then you've got to go to christmas and the worship of the sun god.

    if you want your kids to remember Christ's birth. get them to read it in the scriptures.
     
    #13 gekko, Sep 20, 2006
  14. Sopranette

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    19 and religion is manmade. That explanse it all for me.
     
    #14 Sopranette, Sep 21, 2006
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    Yes, we should all have been so enlightened at that age. ;)
     
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  16. gekko

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    what's THAT supposed to mean??

    religion has been, is, and always will be man-made. -- but where'd you get that from?

    haha.

    God bless
     
    #16 gekko, Sep 21, 2006
  17. Bro Tony

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    What gekko says about religion is true. God has called us into a living vital relationship with Him. He did not call us into a religion or into religious practice. And this is from one who is 47 and pastored for 25 years---not that that makes any difference.

    Bro Tony
     
    #17 Bro Tony, Sep 21, 2006
  18. gekko

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    agree bro tony.

    one thing i'll point out though... that christianity isn't just a vital relationship with God... its a divine revelation. no?
     
    #18 gekko, Sep 21, 2006
  19. Bro Tony

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    Yes brother for without that Divine revelation there could be no vital relationship.:thumbs: :jesus:

    Bro Tony
     
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  20. Sopranette

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    Well, Jesus has answered my prayers again, and two wonderful things have happened. The pastor's wife called me, and asked me for my opinions about the play. I humbly voiced my concerns, and she replied she would consider them, and not ask me to dress and play a little girl. Then I got a phone call from a friend who is a lapsed Catholic. She asked when I'll be singing next, and I told her about the play. She said if I sing, then she'll come to church. Well, that clinches it for me! If all it takes to get her back in church is a song, then I'm there! Last year I wore an angel costum to sing "Silent Night", complete with a tinsel halo. Uncomfortable? You bet! But I forgot about it once the play started. Issue solved!

    Love,
    Sopranette
     
    #20 Sopranette, Sep 22, 2006
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