Cival rights "reverends"

The Rev musta hated Lincoln. Just about every speech had a reference to God in it.

BTW - Since when the civil rights reverends think that the anti-war stance was a civil rights issue???

 

Just this: "...not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord..." And , "...ye shall know them by their fruits..."

 

"Ambassadors have no battleships at their disposal, or heavy infantry, or fortresses. Their weapons are words and opportunities." Demosthenes, 343BC.

Communism was not defeated by force or threat of war, but by a better ideology.

War brings death and destruction. Sometimes it becomes reality, but it is never the solution. In the case of Iraq, 0ne million, possibly two million Iraqi men, women and children will die, and possibly as many as 3000 allied troops. At what price peace? Will this victory bring more unrest in the Middle East?

These are the questions I wrestle with. Surely there is another way to bring about resolve. I have no question that Saddam Hussein is a problem, and that something needs to be done. I am also not convinced that war is the solution.

It was no solution in Korea. We ended without resolve, and the same border divisions as when we started, but thousands of lives were changed forever, and renewed issues are rising again.

It reminds me of another thread that speaks of an athlete turning her back on the flag, the symbol of all that country was and is. Nothing is gained by this action. There are other ways to protest the country's failures, but never to turn one's back on all that that country has delivered down through history, including the very freedom to so protest.

Not all the protesters are liberal "reverends" with another agenda; some of us just disagree with the wholesale slaughter of a people on both sides.

Cheers,

Jim

 

amen.

 

and sometimes ambassadors fail.

communism was defeated? huh, didn't know that. thought china and DPRK and Vietnam were still commies.

it was the solution in the Old Testament.

how many men, women and children are starving to death or dying from disease everyday under hussein's regime right now?

when we sign up for the military we know that our lives may have to be given. it isn't something we look forward to, but that is our job.

nothing but the Antichrist (for about 3 1/2 yrs) and Jesus will bring peace in the middle east so to answer your question, no. but it could save american lives by keeping weapons out of the hands of terrorists. and it could potentially save a lot of Israeli lives too.

OK, what have we not tried yet?

ok, what is?

this is a totally different subject. the reason we didn't totally win the war on korea was due in part to changing our objectives when we started winning. our leaders screwed up and are paying for it now. war with iraq is a totally different situation.

and that's their right. what would be nice is if the media would stop fanning the flame though.

IMO

 

Korea and Iraq One were unresolved because of United Nation involvement.
What besides war was the solution for Hitler and Tojo? Appeasement failed with Neville Chamberlain and the Nazi's and we were bombed while in diplomatic discussions with Japan.

Those who think war is never the solution might brush up on the Old Testament a bit. God commanded it at times.

I see nothing but folly in this continuing tap dance with Saddam. If liberals have their way, this will go on until he has the weapons he truly wants. Nukes.
One of the arguments against war is that he doesn't have them yet. YET!!!?????
So we wait until he does? THEN send in our troops?

Very few Iraqis and allies will die in the war.
The greatest danger to our troops, apart from the biological and chemical weapons Saddam claims he doesn't have, will be getting run over in the stampede of Iraqi "soldiers" rushing to surrender.

I would venture to say that one Marine Armored division could clear out every Arab nation in the Mideast as fast as it takes to drive a tank through them.

I haven't really heard and other solutions offered anyway, except to continue the inspections charade.

I heard on the news today that Saddam has just "found" a banned bomb he forgot he had.
Containing chemicals he said he didn't have.
More stalling.

Oh, I guess I'd better made some attempt to address the topic of this thread.
The "reverends." Most of them don't actually even have a church. Some, like brother Jesse, are just scam artists and extortionists.
Most are just trying to advance their liberal left wing ideology, which has not helped their "flocks" at all.
Where were they when Clinton bombed anybody unfortunate enough to be the bad guy of the day whenever Monica Lewinski's name came up?
Busy defending Clinton.

MR

[ February 26, 2003, 12:04 AM: Message edited by: mountainrun ]

 

yep. just like when he decided to allow the U-2 flights. he's pretending to cooperate to 1. allow himself more time 2. cause dissension in the UN 3. raise support from other arab nations because he has "done everything he could to cooperate"

 

I heard a joke the other day that if Saddam set of a nuke in Paris, the French would say "See!! The inspections are working!!!"


MR

 

It is never hard to tell when God's W-O-R-D-S are not a man's authority.

Exodus 15:2 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name