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CNN Reporter Remembers Haditha Marines

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  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    http://boards.historychannel.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800007277&tstart=30&mod=1149027895658

    A reporter's shock at the Haditha allegations
    By Arwa Damon
    CNN

    EXCERPT

    Tuesday, May 30, 2006; Posted: 1:57 p.m. EDT (17:57 GMT)

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- It actually took me a while to put all the pieces together -- that I know these guys, the U.S. Marines at the heart of the alleged massacre of Iraqi civilians in Haditha.
    I don't know why it didn't register with me until now. It was only after scrolling through the tapes that we shot in Haditha last fall, and I found footage of some of the officers that had been relieved of their command, that it hit me.
    I know the Marines that were operating in western al Anbar, from Husayba all the way to Haditha. I went on countless operations in 2005 up and down the Euphrates River Valley. I was pinned on rooftops with them in Ubeydi for hours taking incoming fire, and I've seen them not fire a shot back because they did not have positive identification on a target.
    I saw their horror when they thought that they finally had identified their target, fired a tank round that went through a wall and into a house filled with civilians. They then rushed to help the wounded -- remarkably no one was killed.
    I was with them in Husayba as they went house to house in an area where insurgents would booby-trap doors, or lie in wait behind closed doors with an AK-47, basically on suicide missions, just waiting for the Marines to come through and open fire. There were civilians in the city as well, and the Marines were always keenly aware of that fact. How they didn't fire at shadows, not knowing what was waiting in each house, I don't know. But they didn't.
     
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  2. KenH

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    It is time to bring our troops home. President Bush has placed them in an untenable situation. We can leave Iraq on our own terms now or wait around until the Iraqi government runs us off. I prefer the former.
     
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    No he hasn't. Their position is no more untenable than the situation Union troops faced while occupying the south after the Civil War or US soldiers did occupying Germany after WW2.
     
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    There is absolutely no comparison between the quagmire that President Bush has created in Iraq and the post War Between the States South or post World War II Germany.
     
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    It is only a quagmire for cut and run cowards who want America to lose for political reasons.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Then I'm proud to be a "cut and run coward" in your eyes, Joseph. :thumbs:
     
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    I wonder how many more of our sons and daughters, grandchildren, moms and dads must be killed or have their limbs blown off before enough is enough? Indeed, it is a quagmire. The only people who seem to like us are the Kurds who really don't consider themselves to be Iraqis.
     
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    Yep.

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    Why are you yelling?

    Are you afraid no one will read your posts unless the print is bold or enlarged or both?
     
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    The same arguments were trotted out the last time. The funny thing is, it did no good until the inevitable ending.

    So far, it's not quite as bad as My Lai. Please God, don't let it be.
     
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    Do you believe leaving Iraq after bolstering the hope of 100's of thousands perhaps millions will stop recurring terrorism in the world and at home? And what of the political vacuum that is left? Who will fill the leadership role? There are tens and maybe hundreds of Iraqis dieing now but will it not be 100's and 1000's if we abandon our cause at this time.

    Whether we entered for the right cause (s) or for truly political or personal reasons of others, we are there. And I believe the majority of the Iraqis are glad and the majority of Americans want us to win while we are there. No government makes all the right moves as hind sight shows us so readily none-the-less to not move or not act is exactly what many are attacking concerning pre-9/11.

    So what will it be we back off and do nothing and when terrorism strikes we whine and cry we should have done more? Or do we move and hear people whine and cry we should not have done anything? Truly a catch 22 but because we do not have all the evidence nor will we anytime soon we need to stay the course. As a country and western song states, "its better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not". I am an American and I will stand behind my countries decisions whether they are right or wrong. And if I am ever placed in a position that I must choose I trust the Lord will give me wisdom to choose correctly.
     
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    While I do very strongly believe in standing behind the US Military, I believe their mission is misguided and that is not their fault because they do not make policy, they only enforce policy, whether that policy is a correct course of action or not.

    I do not believe the majority of Iraqi people are glad we are there (except for the Kurds and they don't consider themselves as part of Iraq). And I do believe that civil war in Iraq between the Sunnis and Shiites is inevitable whether our military is there or not. I pray they won't be caught in the middle any more than they already are.
     
    #12 LadyEagle, Jun 4, 2006
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