Colouminist trys to defend Jacksons definition of a women

[Salty]

Seeing Jackson in this exchange brought to mind a Supreme Court justice, Potter Stewart, who in 1964 declined to provide a definition for pornography. “Perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so,” Potter said. “But I know it when I see it.”

This was written by

By Monica Hesse

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/03/25/ketanji-brown-jackson-woman/

The last paragraph stated:
The judge again declined to answer the question in biological terms. Instead, she answered truthfully: “I know that I am a woman,” she said. And any woman watching her would have known it, too.
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How does she know she is a woman is - if she doesnt know the definition.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Seeing Jackson in this exchange brought to mind a Supreme Court justice, Potter Stewart, who in 1964 declined to provide a definition for pornography. “Perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so,” Potter said. “But I know it when I see it.”

This was written by

By Monica Hesse

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/03/25/ketanji-brown-jackson-woman/

The last paragraph stated:
The judge again declined to answer the question in biological terms. Instead, she answered truthfully: “I know that I am a woman,” she said. And any woman watching her would have known it, too.
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How does she know she is a woman is - if she doesnt know the definition.

from the Post article:

In case you missed the exchange, it began with Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) asking “Can you provide a definition for the word ‘woman’?” as she questioned Jackson about a transgender athlete.

“Can I provide a definition? No. I can’t,” responded Jackson.

It was clear what kind of answer Blackburn wanted: Something chromosomal. Something to do with uteri or double X’s or estrogen — never mind the millions of women (postmenopausal, post-hysterectomied, infertile or living with Turner syndrome) who would not fit those definitions. Or maybe what Blackburn wanted was exactly what she got: Jackson declining to answer so that conservative groups could use that as political fodder.

 

[Salty]

from the Post article:

In case you missed the exchange, it began with Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) asking “Can you provide a definition for the word ‘woman’?” as she questioned Jackson about a transgender athlete.

“Can I provide a definition? No. I can’t,” responded Jackson.

It was clear what kind of answer Blackburn wanted: Something chromosomal. Something to do with uteri or double X’s or estrogen — never mind the millions of women (postmenopausal, post-hysterectomied, infertile or living with Turner syndrome) who would not fit those definitions. Or maybe what Blackburn wanted was exactly what she got: Jackson declining to answer so that conservative groups could use that as political fodder.

And that "political fodder" was to determine if she was going to rule in favor of immoral se/ual activities - ie teaching such trash to K-3, forcing the govt and private business to lower standards - ect.

Yep - the nominee knew exactly what she was doing; in order to advance her extremely liberal views.

 

[canadyjd]

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It was clear what kind of answer Blackburn wanted: Something chromosomal. Something to do with…..double X’s ….o— never mind the millions of women…..who would not fit those definitions…..

Exactly which “women”, of those “millions”, don’t have two “X” chromosomes?

Trans:Gen:er athletes violate title 9. Any mentally ill man, thinking he’s a woman, and uses a woman’s bathroom, licker room, etc, is violating a woman’s right to privacy.

peace to you

 

[FollowTheWay]

Exactly which “women”, of those “millions”, don’t have two “X” chromosomes?

Trans:Gen:er athletes violate title 9. Any mentally ill man, thinking he’s a woman, and uses a woman’s bathroom, licker room, etc, is violating a woman’s right to privacy.

peace to you

The types of women that are included in the millions are defined in parentheses.

 

[canadyjd]

The types of women that are included in the millions are defined in parentheses.

All women have two X chromosomes. All men have 1 X chromosome and 1 Y chromosome. No amount of surgery, hormone treatments, clothing can change that scientific fact.

peace to you

 

[agedman]

When Cruz again ask the question, she said “She was a woman.”


How does she know if she can’t define “woman?”


That doesn’t make sense.

 

[777]

that's my problem with this one, I think she knew exactly what a woman is, she was being evasive and disingenuous in her response. She's got Collins and Mankin's vote, she's on SCOTUS regardless despite Chuck's withholding of some facts about her soft on child pedos tendencies.

 

[Baptist Believer]

All women have two X chromosomes.

Completely false. For instance, I have a friend (and fellow church member) who was born with Turner Syndrome. She has one X chromosome.

No amount of surgery, hormone treatments, clothing can change that scientific fact.

You are mistaken as to what is a “scientific fact.”

 

[Baptist Believer]

When Cruz again ask the question, she said “She was a woman.”

How does she know if she can’t define “woman?”

That doesn’t make sense.

Sure it does. She knows her own biology and her self-identify. It is perfectly consistent.

 

[Revmitchell]

Sure it does. She knows her own biology and her self-identify. It is perfectly consistent.

Doesn't surprise me you are defending this evil junk. Also just because there are rare occasions when people have rare genetic anomalies doesn't make it completely false.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Doesn't surprise me you are defending this evil junk.

It doesn’t surprise me that you are jumping to false conclusions and making accusations against me. That’s always been your pattern.

Also just because there are rare occasions when people have rare genetic anomalies doesn't make it completely false.

Turner’s syndrome is rare, but the exception demonstrates that the allegation that ‘all women are XX’ is a false statement.

Moreover, now that we have routine genetic testing available, we are finding that some apparent men are XX and some apparent women are XY.

Plus there are people both with both male and female organs, or sometimes ambiguous genitalia or NO genitalia. I personally know of one child of a college friend born without genitalia (she was surgically altered to appear outwardly female) and niece/nephew of a church friend born with ambiguous genitalia and was also altered to appear outwardly female.

It is unusual, but it happens frequently enough that — statistically — there are at least several hundred people like that in my county. And those are just the people with physical abnormalities. When we get into the hormonal issues and sexual dysphoria that can be caused by sexual abuse trauma and other forces, the numbers rise significantly.

If we are disciples of Jesus (the One Who would leave the 99 to go in search of 1), we must be concerned about the more unusual situations and take them into account in the way we speak about the issues and the policies we seek to enforce.

 

[Salty]

and than Sen Cruz asked another question"
Ted Cruz Asks KBJ, ‘Could I Decide I Was an Asian Man?’

 

[Deacon]

All women have two X chromosomes. All men have 1 X chromosome and 1 Y chromosome. No amount of surgery, hormone treatments, clothing can change that scientific fact.

peace to you

So I used to think.
Last week I met a 40 something year old woman diagnosed later in life with androgen insensitivity.
Married, infertile, genetic tests revealed XY chromosomes.

I’d imagine everyone was surprised.
Still married.

Rob

 

[Salty]

So I used to think.
Last week I met a 40 something year old woman diagnosed later in life with androgen insensitivity.
Married, infertile, genetic tests revealed XY chromosomes.

I’d imagine everyone was surprised.
Still married.

I'm sure that is a rare exception

 

[agedman]

Does not Scripture state, "Male and female created He them...?"

I don't think there is any alternative condition.

However, I am old, and frankly I have little care about this matter.

The point is I know what I am.

That lady asking to be SC judge knows what she is.

If she doesn't, then she shouldn't sit on the supreme court for she is ignorant of the basic facts concerning life.

 

[Salty]

...If she doesn't, then she shouldn't sit on the supreme court for she is ignorant of the basic facts concerning life.

... she know - but playing "politics" to be accepted by extreme liberals....

 

[Baptist Believer]

I'm sure that is a rare exception

Why are you "sure" about such a thing. On what basis do you believe it is "rare?"

 

[Baptist Believer]

That lady asking to be SC judge knows what she is.

Yes. She knows she is a woman. Specifically, she said, “I know that I am a woman.”

If she doesn't, then she shouldn't sit on the supreme court for she is ignorant of the basic facts concerning life.

Fortunately, that is not an issue.

 

[canadyjd]

Completely false. For instance, I have a friend (and fellow church member) who was born with Turner Syndrome. She has one X chromosome.


You are mistaken as to what is a “scientific fact.”

Well, I now stand corrected. Some women have a severe genetic abnormality called Turner Syndrome where one X chromosome is missing or partially missing and results in life threatening medical conditions. And these women are identified as women, apparently.

FTR, a rare, severe genetic abnormality (Turner Syndrome) is not what we are talking about.

We are talking about mentally ill men (1 x, 1y) thinking they are women or mentally ill women (2X ) thinking they are men. These folks have high rates of suicide because they cannot accept who they are.

These folks need mental health counseling to help them accept the reality of their biology. Instead, folks are attempting to force everyone else to go along with the delusion.

peace to you