Confusing teaching

This sounds like Landmarkism and is sometimes based on a book entitled "TRAIL OF BLOOD" which is online if you do a search for it.

You are right, if you aren't part of a church that has a pastor who's supposed lineage goes back to John the Baptist then they aren't in the true church. You must also be baptized in one of their lineage churches or you aren't properly baptized.

In my experience it is usually in Independent Baptist churches and primarily pastors from a school in Missouri (Springfield?)

Some on the board can correct or confirm, but I think it has, in the past, been in the Southern Baptist convention as well. Haven't run across it in any other groups though it certainly could be.

I know Missionary Baptists also teach this.

 

I have heard of the Baptist Church being able to be traced all the way back to the apostles. I have never heard of tracing anything back to John the Baptist. His followers had to abandon him and follow Jesus (If I remember he even wished that, I must decrease so that he may increase). You have to trace to Jesus and Jesus alone!

On a note the Trail of Blood does not trace the true Church all the way to John the Baptist. Though people who support this weird belief may use exceprts from that book I do not believe it was intended to match the Church to john the baptizer. I think it merely proves that the Baptist belief and doctrines have always existed and did not just spring out of the Catholic Church. (the book teaches that the baptist doctrine always existed because it is the biblical belief and that God preserved it in the time of the dark ages when the catholic church tried to stamp out other denominations).

 

FYI

From Trail of Blood

Dr. J. M. Carroll, the author of this book, was born in the state of Arkansas, January 8, 1858, and died in Texas, January 10, 1931. His father, a Baptist preacher, moved to Texas when Brother Carroll was six years old. There he was converted, baptized, and ordained to the Gospel ministry. Dr. Carroll not only became a leader among Texas Baptist, but an outstanding figure of Southern Baptists, and of the world.
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Under the strange but wonderful impulse and leadership of John the Baptist, the eloquent man from the wilderness, and under the loving touch and miracle-working power of the Christ Himself, and the marvelous preaching of the 12 Apostles and their immediate successors, the Christian religion spread mightily during the first 500-year period. However, it left a terribly bloody trail behind it. Judaism and Paganism bitterly contested every forward movement. John the Baptist was the first of the great leaders to give up his life. His head was taken off. Soon after him went the Savior Himself, the founder of this Christian religion. He died on the Cross, the cruel death of the Cross.
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10. The name "Baptist" is a "nickname," and was given to them by their enemies (unless the name can be rightfully attributed to them as having been given to them by the Savior Himself, when He referred to John as "The Baptist"). To this day, the name has never been officially adopted by any group of Baptists. The name, however, has become fixed and is willingly accepted and proudly borne. It snugly fits. It was the distinguishing name of the forerunner of Christ, the first to teach the doctrine to which the Baptists now hold.
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Some call this teaching "baptist bride" only those who can trace their church back to John the Baptist are the "true bride" of Christ others although saved will just be guest at the marriage supper of the Lamb.
Its pretty "wack". The school that taught this more than any other was Baptist Bible College in Springfield, Missouri. The Bible Baptist Fellowship International has some of its missionaries that teach this false view of the church. There is a good chance Ingo, that your preacher friends are Bible Baptist boys.

Let me clarify that that view is no longer taught at the school in Missouri. It has faded over time. Yet there are some "old school" Bible Baptists that hold that silly view.
I know this to be true because as a missionary in IFB circles I've ran into it before. Those same kind of folk also believe in "alien baptism". No not like a martian that needs baptizing. They believe that if you seek membership into their church and you come from another even "baptist" church if its not a "baptist bride" church then you have to be baptized again. Its nuts. Some of these churches also believe in "closed communion". In other words if your visiting their church and they are having communion you can't partake in it because your not a member of their church.
Also, some Bible Baptist dont' like the term "universal church" they only believe in the "local church". Some will concede to the Scriptures that teach about the "body of Christ" instead of calling it the universal. However; some are very dogmatically against the idea of a universal church. I don't know what they do with Scipture but that is just how it is with some of them fellows.
Hope that little bit of info helps. If I were you I'd steer clear of the pastors your referring to Ingo. They wont' be accepting of anybody unless they are dot for dot like they are. Not even other Bible believing baptists. Find a fellowship with "balanced" teaching.

 

Like the Primitive Baptists.

Sorry, just had to get a little plug in there.

 

"John the Baptist" does not mean that himself was a baptist as religion name. Jesus called John, 'the baptist', because he baptized people in Jordan River.

Early Church have no label name as religion organization. They were just followers of Jesus Christ.

We all know that many religions come from Roman Catholic, as Catholic is the mother of the religions. But, Catholic is a false religion and pagan.

I am proud being a baptist myself, not just because it is part of religion. Because I am a follower of Jesus Christ, and was baptized under the water completely by obey Christ's command.

By the way, there is no religion in the heaven. All people in the heaven worship their Saviour - Jesus Christ. He is our Saviour and also creator too.

Jesus Christ have no religion himself. He is God, Saviour, and creator.

When, the end of the age occurs at Christ's coming. EVERY person of the world shall bow before Jesus, that they shall confess, that He is the Lord.

Then the next age to come, there shall be no more religions over the world. All of us shall worship only one Saviour - Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is our true religion forever and ever.

Amen? Amen!

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!

 

It isn't necessary to have physical succession to be a true Christian church. It is only necessary to have right practice and right doctrine. Every true believer is born from above, not from another. The same is true of every true church, although one can trace the physical body back at times.