Conservative vs Liberal

On another thread a member brought up whether somebody is a social conservative, as opposed to social liberalism.

This brings up the question of definitions- what exactly is a conservative.

Here are some ideas I consider conservative:

1. A limited federal government
2. Anti-abortion
3. Secure borders
4. Fiscal responsibility and accountability
5. Capitalism
6. Stronger State rights
7. Free market
8. Abolishing Critical Race Theory
9. Constitutionalist approach
10. Support of 2nd Ammendment rights
11. Free speech

I'm sure there are more, but that's a quick snapshot.

 

Well, it certainly is not complete.

Those were just some of the things that I consider to be conservative.

If we go into morality then I'd list a slew of Christian values. The reason is it seems to me that the left stands opposed to those values (the leftist agenda seems opposed to anything remotely Christian).

That said, you do not have to agree. You certainly wouldn't be the only one.

 

The reason I believe it is important to define our terns here is there have been instances where "leftist", "liberal", "Democrat", etc. has been applied to others without explanation.

It has been applied to me, and I know I am not the only one. Yet I hold those values I posted in the OP (values I believe to be conservative).

 

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No. On another thread a member brought up whether somebody is a social conservative, as opposed to social liberalism.

I am saying these terms need defining.

The OP is post #1. I am not sure what part needs explaining.

 

There isn't a specific post in question.

We talk about people being centrists, moderates, conservatives, leftists, liberals.

I am saying we need to nail down our terms.

I am asking for a definition of conservative vs liberal ideas.

Why is this so hard for you to understand.

A better political test

 

I'm not making an accusation against another member.

If it helps, I'll say Biden is a liberal (or a leftist). Go off that.

Any member on this thread who has read the political forum knows members refer to people as conservative, liberal, leftist, alt-right, far-left, ect.

What part of the OP do you disagree with? How do you define conservative and liberal?

 

No, not a specific post (there were several). But the posts are not the topic. The topic is defining terms.

On this thread:
Supreme Court Considers Taking Brunson vs Adams @Aaron said that @canadyjd supported the left.

But from what I have read about their positions on the US Constitution @canadyjd seems more conservative than @Aaron . He does not seem a leftist at all.

So how do we define the terms?

 

Now, when it comes to morality I'd define conservative as holding to traditional Christian values and liberalism as the sins of Romans 3 (the DNC platform).

 

Interesting definition.

So in your view conservative and liberal is not descriptive of values or beliefs but rather political action and involvement.

That makes sence when it comes to weighing political capitol. Those who hold conservative values and beliefs but abstain from politics are not legitimate resources for a political party or political movement.

In this case conservative and liberal would have nothing to do with morality. Considering that, I suppose I typically combine moral values into those terms.

The word "leftist" means having left wing political views. The opposite is "right-wing". If I understand you correctly, you believe leftist and right wing defines values while conservative and liberal defines political activism.

I always considered conservative and liberal to define values and leftist (left-wing) and right wing to define political affiliation.

Other than swapping those terms, I think we agree in that one word refers to activism while another to beliefs.

 

Perhaps you should have caught up before you responded.

I am saying that we need to define the terms we use.

I gave an explanation of what I believe to be conservative values (liberal values being the opposite).

@RighteousnessTemperance& explained that he views conservative and liberal not as values or beliefs but acting politically on those beliefs.

I have not said anything about an opponent.

I have not claimed that those who believes the US Constitution required Confress to investigate elections within a State are seeking judicial activism.

As usual you are making stuff up.

My argument against Congress interfering in how a State conducts an election is that I simply do not want the Federal Government that involved in the affairs of the State. I also do not support terminating or suspending the US Constitution.

But you, once again, are fighting strawmen of your own invention. The bad part is that you make false claims about other people's positions (again, a reoccurring problem with your posts).