Covid and the MARK OF THE BEAST

[Binyamin7]

That being said, this absolutely could and I think WILL give way to the mark of the beast. If they win/steal the election perhaps someone who is known as one of the all time best public speakers will somehow end up in power. We know speaking abilities is the most repeated trait of the little horn. We also see which characters are rising to influence (again).

If they use the digital certificate that Bill Gates referenced in his reddit interview as a hand or forehead mark of some sort or even something like this: How a dot on your forearm could be the future sign of COVID immunity

I do agree is has to be issued by antichrist. I do agree it has to be on the right hand or forehead. But the ideas and technology are absolutely already openly on the table- and some other ideas are researchable but they aren't talking about yet- such as id2020 type of things.

Example, a vaccine, mrna that alters dna and is the first of it's kind by the way (see Zola Levitts youtube video on nephilim for interesting possibility on that), paired with a digital mark that has some medical data including proof of vaccine, could be all that is needed. We can't participate economically wothout a mask already in many ways. It isn't too far fetched to see the vaccine being mandatory and the implant or quantum dot tattoo or similar being required for purchases.

That being said I do expect it to develop further and there is reason to believe it will. Cashless is being talked about seriously now. The US Dollar is being challenged as the reserve currency now. And remember Gates and Obma helped India go cashless in 2016 and then someone scrubbed it off the net... That is weird huh. No doubt some people want a digital currency as you have talked about for some time. Can you think of a better way to bring that about?

So I suspect they bundle this all up into one package ordeal. Especially if the Manchurian man gets in. I would expect another strong (stonger) wave, more riots, and added terrorism. Honestly bet the farm on it Mark. They could then enact continuity of gov and the leader will become different than who is elected somehow.

I could go on and on mostly all of the top of my head but I will digress for now. God bless you guys. Oh and one more thing, America fits Rev 17 and 18.

 

[SGO]

Sources?

 

[church mouse guy]

The rich are better able to avoid contact with the Chinese virus. Biden wants federally mandated masks and maybe a new long lockdown. Gates, who is guilty of crimes against humanity, does want a mandatory vaccine. The rich want mandatory temperature taking before entering any building and mandatory quarantine of anyone with a temperature above 99.5. The Democrats under top cop Harris will expand federal police powers to criminalize those with the Chinese virus.

 

[Sai]

First of all, the mark doesn’t happen until the middle of the trib. What does happen even before the trib in my observation is the one world religion of ecclesiastical Babylon.

That is what we need to focus on.

 

[Scott Downey]

First of all, the mark doesn’t happen until the middle of the trib. What does happen even before the trib in my observation is the one world religion of ecclesiastical Babylon.

That is what we need to focus on.

yes, quite possible many believers have already died, killed by the beast, or died of natural causes, gone to be with the Lord in heaven, because the wording says it like this, note v15, he kills all those who refuse to worship the beast....The mark comes after all the believers who refuse to worship the beast are killed. So the mark wont be put on any believers. Maybe false brethren will worship the beast, but then they are not believers. Since all the world worships the beast and his image, that shows the people of the world worship the devil and not God.

It is certain some believers will survive to see the second coming because of how Paul writes about it, 'we who remain alive', so the beast kills all who refuse to worship, if he can get his hands on you.
1 Thessalonians 4:15
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.

Revelation 14

7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.
10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.

15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[Sai]

yes, quite possible many believers have already died, killed by the beast, or died of natural causes, gone to be with the Lord in heaven, because the wording says it like this, note v15, he kills all those who refuse to worship the beast....The mark comes after all the believers who refuse to worship the beast are killed. So the mark wont be put on any believers. Maybe false brethren will worship the beast, but then they are not believers. Since all the world worships the beast and his image, that shows the people of the world worship the devil and not God.

It is certain some believers will survive to see the second coming because of how Paul writes about it, 'we who remain alive', so the beast kills all who refuse to worship, if he can get his hands on you.
1 Thessalonians 4:15
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.

Revelation 14

7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.
10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.

15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The tribulation has not begun.

 

[Binyamin7]

First of all, the mark doesn’t happen until the middle of the trib. What does happen even before the trib in my observation is the one world religion of ecclesiastical Babylon.

That is what we need to focus on.

Daniel 9:27 is the only text used for a 7year tribulation and Matthew Henry and Barnes commentaries both think we are interpreting that wrong.

3.5 years in listed 8 times.

Other interpretation is that Messiah created a covenant with many, Gentiles and not just Jews- for a week. 3.5 years He ends sacrifice and offering because of His sacrifice on the cross. Then there is 3.5 years left lingering that will be the final end.

That theory has Daniel 9:27a as Messiah and Daniel 9:27b as Antichrist.

Have we been bamboozled?

If there is only a 3.5 year period left then humanity doesn't get a happy 3.5yr period to sit around on our hands and figure everything out.

 

[Sai]

Daniel 9:27 is the only text used for a 7year tribulation and Matthew Henry and Barnes commentaries both think we are interpreting that wrong.

3.5 years in listed 8 times.

Other interpretation is that Messiah created a covenant with many, Gentiles and not just Jews- for a week. 3.5 years He ends sacrifice and offering because of His sacrifice on the cross. Then there is 3.5 years left lingering that will be the final end.

That theory has Daniel 9:27a as Messiah and Daniel 9:27b as Antichrist.

Have we been bamboozled?

If there is only a 3.5 year period left then humanity doesn't get a happy 3.5yr period to sit around on our hands and figure everything out.

Henry’s commentary betokens unworthy scholarship.

 

[Binyamin7]

Henry’s commentary betokens unworthy scholarship.

That doesn't discredit that understanding, which was the majority held understanding until more recently.

 

[Sai]

That doesn't discredit that understanding, which was the majority held understanding until more recently.

I have a policy of never studying error.

 

[church mouse guy]

I have a policy of never studying error.

I have never read Matthew Henry from cover to cover. However, I often use him for a reference. He was a Puritan I think. Most systematic theologies lean old earth or don't mention young earth creation. Three years ago I was blessed to make a brief visit to the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter in Kentucky, the evangelistic outreach of Australian Ken Ham, founder and CEO of Answers in Genesis.

 

[asterisktom]

I have a policy of never studying error.

How do you know what is error unless you first study it??

 

[Sai]

How do you know what is error unless you first study it??

I’m an expert in the truth.

 

[asterisktom]

I’m an expert in the truth.

It is an honor to be in your presence. I'll get my notepad.

 

[Sai]

It is an honor to be in your presence. I'll get my notepad.

I’ve completed a verse by verse commentary on each of minor and major prophets. I’m completing Revelation soon.

 

[Sai]

I have never read Matthew Henry from cover to cover. However, I often use him for a reference. He was a Puritan I think. Most systematic theologies lean old earth or don't mention young earth creation. Three years ago I was blessed to make a brief visit to the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter in Kentucky, the evangelistic outreach of Australian Ken Ham, founder and CEO of Answers in Genesis.

The course I took on the book of Genesis was an 80 hour lecture of which during the course of the study evolutionary theory was never mentioned. I say this because of the importance of the book.

 

[asterisktom]

I’ve completed a verse by verse commentary on each of minor and major prophets. I’m completing Revelation soon.

I was being sarcastic, which is not a good thing. I think ignoring is a better option. Carry on.

 

[Sai]

I was being sarcastic, which is not a good thing. I think ignoring is a better option. Carry on.

I’ve downloaded all of it here. It took two years to compile all of it. Quite the accomplishment.

 

[church mouse guy]

The course I took on the book of Genesis was an 80 hour lecture of which during the course of the study evolutionary theory was never mentioned. I say this because of the importance of the book.

How old did they say that the earth is?

 

[Sai]

How old did they say that the earth is?

Not very old.
Apparently Satan had dominion here when he issued his I Wills and that resulted in some form of judgement causing the earth to be in a state of chaos under water, most likely a worldwide flood. However, that period of time need not be very long and probably was not. But it was not a vegetable garden during Satan s day it was a mineral garden. I’ll post a new thread on the 6 abodes of Satan and see if it drums up any conversation.