Mike Gascoigne
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My name is Mike Gascoigne and I am new to this board. I came here because one of my website articles appeared in the Baptist Debate Forums and it resulted in some discussion. See Baptist Theology & Bible Study : Hebrew the original language?
I have always believed that God created the world, since I was a teenager, and I used to argue about it with my schoolteachers. Since then, a lot of new material has appeared, all affirming that we see in nature the intricate handiwork of God, and it could not have come about by mere accident. In just one living cell there is more intricate design than any of us could achieve in a whole lifetime, so that our feeble inventions like motor cars, aircraft and computers look like trash by comparison.
After a while, I began to feel that every new creationist publication was aimed towards a goal that had already been achieved, piling one proof on top of another, and re-stating a case that has already been proved, although I never got bored with it because each new proof was evidence of God's handiwork.
Then I read a book that was different from all the others. It was Bill Cooper's "After the Flood" and it attempted to prove the creationist case using history instead of science. It looked at secular histories, written by people who had never seen a Bible, saying much the same things as the Bible was saying. In that case, the events of Creation and the Flood have been preserved from antiquity by people around the world who shared a common knowledge of the events.
I began to wonder why we spend so much time looking at science to tell us about the past. Surely, the best way to find out about the past is to look at the records that have been left behind by our ancestors. Science can only be used to validate things that we know already. For example, forensic science is used to find out the details of known crimes, and it would be ridiculous if a forensic scientist found a fingerprint on a lamp post and decided "A horrible murder must have happened here". He has to know about the murder already, otherwise there is no point looking for clues.
In the study of Creation, we have the historical record of events, in the form of the Bible and other documents, and then we have science which gives us the "clues", affirming the events and sometimes giving us more detail about how they might have occurred. Creation Science cannot stand on its own, except insofar as it can prove that there is design in nature, and an act of creation must have occurred. To get a real understanding of our past, we need to study Creation History alongside Creation Science, or to be more precise, we need Creation History first, then Creation Science.
Now, some of us will argue that the only Creation History we need is the Bible, and that's just fine if we are Bible-Believing Christians, but what about the rest of the world? We have to convince them that the same histories exist elsewhere, with some variation, in other cultures around the world. When we have persuaded them that there actually was a Creation followed by a Flood, we might then be able to persuade them that the Bible is the best and most accurate of all the historical accounts.
After reading Bill Cooper's book, I went further into the issues and eventually wrote my own book called "Forgotten History of the Western People: From the Earliest Origins". Details are on the following page.
http://www.write-on.co.uk/annomundi.htm
It begins with the Babylonian account of Creation, the ten kings before the Flood and then the Flood itself. Then it goes into the Greek mythology, showing that all the gods are deified kings. Then there is the fall of Troy, the flight of Aeneas to Italy and the arrival of his great-grandson Brutus in Britain. There are some fanciful ideas that have to be discarded, as we cannot believe everything that passes through the hands of medieval historians, but having done so we are left with a substantial amount of real history, showing that we can trace our origins almost continuously from Adam to the present time.
In addition to my book, I continue to write articles on any new issues that might arise, and these are posted on the following page.
http://www.write-on.co.uk/history/index.htm
I would like to hear from anyone who wants get involved with these issues. History has been decimated since the time of Darwin because historians, under pressure from evolutionists, have dismissed every ancient account as mythology, including the Bible, and there is much work to be done, recovering what has been lost and forgotten.
Mike Gascoigne
I have always believed that God created the world, since I was a teenager, and I used to argue about it with my schoolteachers. Since then, a lot of new material has appeared, all affirming that we see in nature the intricate handiwork of God, and it could not have come about by mere accident. In just one living cell there is more intricate design than any of us could achieve in a whole lifetime, so that our feeble inventions like motor cars, aircraft and computers look like trash by comparison.
After a while, I began to feel that every new creationist publication was aimed towards a goal that had already been achieved, piling one proof on top of another, and re-stating a case that has already been proved, although I never got bored with it because each new proof was evidence of God's handiwork.
Then I read a book that was different from all the others. It was Bill Cooper's "After the Flood" and it attempted to prove the creationist case using history instead of science. It looked at secular histories, written by people who had never seen a Bible, saying much the same things as the Bible was saying. In that case, the events of Creation and the Flood have been preserved from antiquity by people around the world who shared a common knowledge of the events.
I began to wonder why we spend so much time looking at science to tell us about the past. Surely, the best way to find out about the past is to look at the records that have been left behind by our ancestors. Science can only be used to validate things that we know already. For example, forensic science is used to find out the details of known crimes, and it would be ridiculous if a forensic scientist found a fingerprint on a lamp post and decided "A horrible murder must have happened here". He has to know about the murder already, otherwise there is no point looking for clues.
In the study of Creation, we have the historical record of events, in the form of the Bible and other documents, and then we have science which gives us the "clues", affirming the events and sometimes giving us more detail about how they might have occurred. Creation Science cannot stand on its own, except insofar as it can prove that there is design in nature, and an act of creation must have occurred. To get a real understanding of our past, we need to study Creation History alongside Creation Science, or to be more precise, we need Creation History first, then Creation Science.
Now, some of us will argue that the only Creation History we need is the Bible, and that's just fine if we are Bible-Believing Christians, but what about the rest of the world? We have to convince them that the same histories exist elsewhere, with some variation, in other cultures around the world. When we have persuaded them that there actually was a Creation followed by a Flood, we might then be able to persuade them that the Bible is the best and most accurate of all the historical accounts.
After reading Bill Cooper's book, I went further into the issues and eventually wrote my own book called "Forgotten History of the Western People: From the Earliest Origins". Details are on the following page.
http://www.write-on.co.uk/annomundi.htm
It begins with the Babylonian account of Creation, the ten kings before the Flood and then the Flood itself. Then it goes into the Greek mythology, showing that all the gods are deified kings. Then there is the fall of Troy, the flight of Aeneas to Italy and the arrival of his great-grandson Brutus in Britain. There are some fanciful ideas that have to be discarded, as we cannot believe everything that passes through the hands of medieval historians, but having done so we are left with a substantial amount of real history, showing that we can trace our origins almost continuously from Adam to the present time.
In addition to my book, I continue to write articles on any new issues that might arise, and these are posted on the following page.
http://www.write-on.co.uk/history/index.htm
I would like to hear from anyone who wants get involved with these issues. History has been decimated since the time of Darwin because historians, under pressure from evolutionists, have dismissed every ancient account as mythology, including the Bible, and there is much work to be done, recovering what has been lost and forgotten.
Mike Gascoigne
