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Cyrus 1st year in 455 BC ?

Martin Marprelate

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When I was at University as an unsaved oik about 100 years ago, I studied some Herodotus, 'the Father of History' and Herodotus was probably still alive in 455, yet he casts it as a long time ago. 536 is correct.
 

asterisktom

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It seems the idea that Cyrus' 1st year as sole-rex was 455 BC rather than 536 BC has been hopelessly negated by recent confirmations (including astronomical ones) of Ptolemy's Canon of kings.

See for instance:
Refuting Challenges to the Accepted Chronology of Achaemenid Empire

Does anyone here hold to 455 BC as Cyrus' 1st as sole-rex, and could you uphold your position in light of the article referenced?

Thanks

I pretty much agree with this article. At least the parts that I read. Especially this:

"Thus the second decree in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes in 454 BC started the countdown."


I believe that 454 BC is the exact date and Artaxerxes is the right person to begin the countdown.

Interesting article. I bookmarked it for more careful reading. Right now in the middle of preparing for my own article on a different site.

BTW, I wrote more on this topic here:
Old Greek History & Daniel’s Seventy Weeks
 

tyndale1946

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I pretty much agree with this article. At least the parts that I read. Especially this:

"Thus the second decree in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes in 454 BC started the countdown."


I believe that 454 BC is the exact date and Artaxerxes is the right person to begin the countdown.

Interesting article. I bookmarked it for more careful reading. Right now in the middle of preparing for my own article on a different site.

BTW, I wrote more on this topic here:
Old Greek History & Daniel’s Seventy Weeks

Just finished reading The Seventy Weeks And The Great Tribulation by Philip Mauro, I also go with Artaxerxes, and I guess how you determine where you start also determines your eschatology... Brother Glen:)
 

asterisktom

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Just finished reading The Seventy Weeks And The Great Tribulation by Philip Mauro, I also go with Artaxerxes, and I guess how you determine where you start also determines your eschatology... Brother Glen:)

Mauro is a good read for sure. Some things I a disagreed with, but I forget what. I think what finally clinched the date and the man for me was reading the Annals of Ussher, the new Pierce and Pierce edition (I forget the first names) with lots of convincing footnotes.
 

tyndale1946

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Mauro is a good read for sure. Some things I a disagreed with, but I forget what. I think what finally clinched the date and the man for me was reading the Annals of Ussher, the new Pierce and Pierce edition (I forget the first names) with lots of convincing footnotes.

Half way through a new one... The Hope Of Israel... What Is It?... Also by Mauro... Why is it that some who are so adept at secular history, question ancient biblical history?... Then push it into the future... Try to figure that one out?... Brother Glen:)

I remember a quotation from a preacher that went to be with the Lord, last year... If it makes sense, seek no other sense or you will end up with nonsense... Dig deep as I say and you will find the answer, maybe not right away but keep studying and wait a while it will come!
 

asterisktom

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Half way through a new one... The Hope Of Israel... What Is It?... Also by Mauro... Why is it that some who are so adept at secular history, question ancient biblical history?... Then push it into the future... Try to figure that one out?... Brother Glen:)

I remember a quotation from a preacher that went to be with the Lord, last year... If it makes sense, seek no other sense or you will end up with nonsense... Dig deep as I say and you will find the answer, maybe not right away but keep studying and wait a while it will come!

True, especially that last sentence. I often told my students not to rush into a settled answer on a theological point because you may have to unlearn it later. It is often harder to unlearn than to learn. Also, this is not a race.:)
 

thomas15

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Just finished reading The Seventy Weeks And The Great Tribulation by Philip Mauro, I also go with Artaxerxes, and I guess how you determine where you start also determines your eschatology... Brother Glen:)

Actually my brother, it is your eschatology that determines the start date.
 
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