• Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Deacons

Salty

20,000 Posts Club
Administrator
Lets talk about Deacons
Should they be ordained
Should they be elected for 3 year terms
Should they be allowed unlimited terms?
What is their main job and what other duties should they have
Should families be assigned to a certain deacon

Any discussion about deacons?
 

Reynolds

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Lets talk about Deacons
Should they be ordained
Should they be elected for 3 year terms
Should they be allowed unlimited terms?
What is their main job and what other duties should they have
Should families be assigned to a certain deacon

Any discussion about deacons?
John Macarthur has convinced me that there two offices of Deacon. The lower office is a servant deacon. The higher office is an administrative/elder office.
 

agedman

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
John Macarthur has convinced me that there two offices of Deacon. The lower office is a servant deacon. The higher office is an administrative/elder office.
Macath has no authority concerning what the Scriptures teach about deacons.

However, he may structure the church as He pleases, but deacons by definition of the name itself is servant.

A servant may be an administrator (per example of Joseph in Potiphar’s house) but ultimately they remain a servant even in that responsibility.
 

Salty

20,000 Posts Club
Administrator
John Macarthur has convinced me that there two offices of Deacon. The lower office is a servant deacon. The higher office is an administrative/elder office.
What scripture does he use for that
 

Two Wings

Well-Known Member
great topic.

And we Baptists struggle with the Biblical execution of the office of Deacon.

I'm a 3rd generation ordained Deacon in the Southern Baptist denomination.

What I witnessed growing-up and in my own experience when I became "of age" ... is that the typical SBC Deacon is really an Elder. two very different offices with very similar qualifications. In that Deacon body of 7-12 ... is probably 2 - 4 actual servant ministers. The rest are "Board members."

I do not ascribe to term limits, but to better adherence to the office as it is clearly described; a servant/minister ... a "mini pastor" if you will ....

then the business administrators in the Elders. It's easy to simply say "just nomenclature" ... except that the separation of duties is what is lacking in the typical SBC.

The typical SBC has over a dozen committees with the big 3 or 4 (finance, personnel, building/grounds)having at least one Deacon on the committee, if not the Chair. Then there are business meetings for the membership's ratification/rejection of committee/deacon reccs. In my 40 years of being sufficiently mature to know what's going on ... I've witnessed precisely ONE deacon recc rejected ... and that was just prior to the split of that SBC church congregation.

Is that Biblical? (not the split, those which ARE Biblical DO result in "the Gospel spreading even faster)

practically ... and particularly in a small congregation ... there will be mixing. However, there's a reason the two offices are outlined in the Church governance. I won't presume to understand all of it, but the Head of the Church is the primary reason ... not our secular form of government applied to the church.
 

Reynolds

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Macath has no authority concerning what the Scriptures teach about deacons.

However, he may structure the church as He pleases, but deacons by definition of the name itself is servant.

A servant may be an administrator (per example of Joseph in Potiphar’s house) but ultimately they remain a servant even in that responsibility.
He actually builds a Biblical case for it. I have no idea what he does in his church.
 

Reynolds

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
What scripture does he use for that
I will try to find where he discussed it and link it. I have posted the link on here before. He used the obvious scriptures we all use. He just shows how we traditionally interpret them wrong.
 

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
We have:
Elders (Pastors)
Deacons - These typically service over a given area (music ministry, hospitality, etc)
We also technically have a "Deaconess" position, although most of us want to get that out of our Church documents.

Lets talk about Deacons
Should they be ordained
Should they be elected for 3 year terms
Should they be allowed unlimited terms?
What is their main job and what other duties should they have
Should families be assigned to a certain deacon

Any discussion about deacons?
In regards to the above respectively:
No
No
Yes
Deacons should serve the Church congregation's needs and supervise other ministries
It wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea I suppose, although I don't know that I've seen a need to assign families.
 

Yeshua1

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Lets talk about Deacons
Should they be ordained
Should they be elected for 3 year terms
Should they be allowed unlimited terms?
What is their main job and what other duties should they have
Should families be assigned to a certain deacon

Any discussion about deacons?
No need to be ordained or accredited
Not part of the spiritual leadership team, as that would be pastors and elders
Normally part of the everyday maintenance and business operations of the local church
 
Top