Democrat Party=Fear Mongering, Racism, and Perpetual Victimhood

[Revmitchell]

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[Reynolds]

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If the Democrats gives blacks reparations, are they going to give Native Americans our land back?

 

[Revmitchell]

It was never Native American land

 

[Lodic]

It was never Native American land

If I may ask, why wouldn't it have been Native American land? Weren't they here first?

On a different note, I appreciate your political threads.

 

[Reynolds]

It was never Native American land

It was Indian land. I use native American because now people immediately think from India when I say Indian.

 

[Revmitchell]

If I may ask, why wouldn't it have been Native American land? Weren't they here first?

On a different note, I appreciate your political threads.

I have derailed my own thread. Anyway they were more nomadic except the pueblos and Acuma Indians. They didn't have an borders or established countries. They fought and enslaved each other. They were as hostile to each other as they were to the white man so even they did not recognize each others land at times.

 

[Reynolds]

I have derailed my own thread. Anyway they were more nomadic except the pueblos and Acuma Indians. They didn't have an borders or established countries. They fought and enslaved each other. They were as hostile to each other as they were to the white man so even they did not recognize each others land at times.

While all is true, that has nothing to do with the land not being theirs.

 

[Revmitchell]

While all is true, that has nothing to do with the land not being theirs.

It has everything to do with it. No boundaries, nomadic people cannot say "from here to here this is our land" No boundaries means one cannot lay claim to the land. Since tribes fought and enslaved each other then even Indians did not recognize whos land was whos.

While it is true they were here they were also elsewhere at one time. For instance the Navajos came down from the Canadian area and in nomadic fashion stayed along the southern border but never any particular place. They would survive by going into Mexico and stealing livestock. Sorry but you don't get to lay claim to land you do not stay on and set borders.

 

[Use of Time]

It has everything to do with it. No boundaries, nomadic people cannot say "from here to here this is our land" No boundaries means one cannot lay claim to the land. Since tribes fought and enslaved each other then even Indians did not recognize whos land was whos.

While it is true they were here they were also elsewhere at one time. For instance the Navajos came down from the Canadian area and in nomadic fashion stayed along the southern border but never any particular place. They would survive by going into Mexico and stealing livestock. Sorry but you don't get to lay claim to land you do not stay on and set borders.

You are applying the standards of land ownership to that which we have now. Standards that were forced on them. People came over here, whipped up some deeds on paper and all of a sudden that makes it theirs? I mean of course the Native Americans didn’t have titles and deeds. It doesn’t absolve the country we have now from any responsibility.

 

[Reynolds]

It has everything to do with it. No boundaries, nomadic people cannot say "from here to here this is our land" No boundaries means one cannot lay claim to the land. Since tribes fought and enslaved each other then even Indians did not recognize whos land was whos.

While it is true they were here they were also elsewhere at one time. For instance the Navajos came down from the Canadian area and in nomadic fashion stayed along the southern border but never any particular place. They would survive by going into Mexico and stealing livestock. Sorry but you don't get to lay claim to land you do not stay on and set borders.

You are stretching hard to try to justify an injustice. If the Indians did not own the land, why did U.S. govt. make and break treaties with them?

 

[Revmitchell]

You are stretching hard to try to justify an injustice. If the Indians did not own the land, why did U.S. govt. make and break treaties with them?

Ask the Democrats. Anyway they were just as violent to us as they were to each other. Any number of reasons. And no I don't have to try hard to remember history and facts.

 

[Reynolds]

Ask the Democrats. Anyway they were just as violent to us as they were to each other. Any number of reasons. And no I don't have to try hard to remember history and facts.

You are remembering white mans "facts."
It was our land. We were here thousands of years before Europeans. The fact we fought each other has nothing to do with our ownership of the land. Had you not invaded us, we would not have been "violent" to you. What you call violence, I call defense of our way of life. Why don't you justify the Trail of Tears while you are at it? Have any white mans "facts" to give me on that one?

 

[Revmitchell]

You are remembering white mans "facts."
It was our land. We were here thousands of years before Europeans. The fact we fought each other has nothing to do with our ownership of the land. Had you not invaded us, we would not have been "violent" to you. What you call violence, I call defense of our way of life. Why don't you justify the Trail of Tears while you are at it? Have any white mans "facts" to give me on that one?

There is no doubt white men treated Indians terribly in some cases and not as bad in other cases than Indians would have us believe. However, so did Indians. No one is guilt free and no one is justified.

 

[Reynolds]

There is no doubt white men treated Indians terribly in some cases and not as bad in other cases than Indians would have us believe. However, so did Indians. No one is guilt free and no one is justified.

We were invaded. How should we have treated you?
Historical fact. The U.S. govt. launched war on the buffalo to starve our western tribes into surrender and relocation to reservations. All, I repeat All, our Eastern land was stolen. We were left with a few tiny reservations. All the western land that was good for anything was taken. Every treaty ever signed was broken.

 

[Use of Time]

He does the same thing with slavery.

 

[Lodic]

I have derailed my own thread. Anyway they were more nomadic except the pueblos and Acuma Indians. They didn't have an borders or established countries. They fought and enslaved each other. They were as hostile to each other as they were to the white man so even they did not recognize each others land at times.

I see your point. Thanks.