Did Eve Lie To The Serpent?

Genesis 3:2-3 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

I had always heard that Eve added to God's Word when she said 'neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." And I had always believed that she did because of other's teaching so.

But tonight, as Linda and I were studying the Word, a thought came to me.

Did Eve really lie to the serpent in that statement?

I wonder if God may have instructed her not to touch it and it just was not recorded by Moses?

The reason I ask this is because of a verse found in Romans 5

Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Was it disobedience that brought sin into the world? or was it a lie?

If a lie, then Eve lied before being deceived.

Theologians, have at it.

 

But if Eve lied to the serpent, sin would already have to have been in the world. And we know she ate of the fruit first and then gave to Adam.

Are you saying before Adam ate of the fruit lying was not a sin?

 

If God never said it but she said He did, that would be a lie.

If Adam told her that God said 'neither shall ye touch it' and God did not say it, then it was a lie.

Adding any amount of words to a direct quote of another makes the quote no longer the original speaker's quote.

So, if she added to the warning, and stated that it was the warning God spoke, she lied.

She would have lied before the deception.

 

No joking, readmore.

I am trying to figger this one out.

Either God told them not to touch the tree and Moses did not record it in the Book of Genesis, or Eve added to God's Word making it a lie.

And yet she was not deceived until the serpent told her ' Ye shall not die... ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.'

 

The simple statement 'Thou mayest not eat thereof, lest ye die" surely would have been easy for her to remember.

After all, she did quote the same warning, word for word to the serpent, but added 'neither shall ye touch it.'

To add that if God did not say it would be making His Word a lie; or as Paul stated in Romans 1 some would do... turn the truth into a lie.

 

Whether Eve was mistaken or not, it would still be a lie. She spoke an untruth if God did not say it and she said He did.

A lie is a lie whether told by mistake or on purpose.

 

The first time the word 'lie' is used in the Old Testament in the context of telling a lie is in Leviticus 19:11.

The Hebrew is translated 'shaqar' and it means

a primitive root; to cheat, i.e. be untrue (usually in words):--fail, deal falsely, lie.

The first time it is used in the New Testament is in John 8:44.

The Greek is translated 'pseudos' and it means

a falsehood:--lie, lying.

Neither definition are translated as saying'telling a untruth with intention to deceive. They just say a falsehood, be untrue, deal falsely, lie.A lie is a lie whether joking around or not.

 

PK,

No, I believe Romans 5:19... as well as the rest of the Word of God.

I am just saying I think God must have said 'neither shall ye touch it' at some point before Eve told the serpent that. Else she would have been telling a lie.