Did Obama REALLY Inherit a Mess?

[righteousdude2]

The numbers don't lie ... but the politicians and their spin doctors do!

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[righteousdude2]

Fifty views., and still no liberal arguments. The truth does make it difficult to debate. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Zaac]

Might just be you.:sleep:

 

[InTheLight]

The numbers don't lie ...

No, they don't. But too bad it's no longer 2011, which is where these numbers are from.

Fifty views., and still no liberal arguments.

Hey, if you've got to post stuff that's 4 years old to take a swipe at Obama, you've got a bitterness issue.

The truth does make it difficult to debate.

LOL! Easy as swatting flies on a rhino's @ss.


People, please fact check your posts before you post them.

 

[Crabtownboy]

The OP was a snapshot that is now 4 years old and the picture if much improved now. Let's put a bit of perspective on it. Here are graphics of the Bush years showing what Obama inherited. Sorry the 4 charts are so large. I know of no way to make them smaller.

 

[InTheLight]

Unemployment rate is now 5.5%, about where it was at in 2004 and early 2008. Obama's had 6 years, why isn't unemployment below 5%? After 9/11 unemployment spiked but Bush got it back to where it was at in less than 6 years.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Unemployment rate is now 5.5%, about where it was at in 2004 and early 2008. Obama's had 6 years, why isn't unemployment below 5%? After 9/11 unemployment spiked but Bush got it back to where it was at in less than 6 years.

Because the GOP stonewalled and said "NO" to everything the would have helped. They slowed down the recovery and should be held accountable. Of course we now see even though they have a majority in both houses of congress they still cannot get anything done as they squabble with each other so much.

 

[InTheLight]

Because the GOP stonewalled and said "NO" to everything the would have helped. They slowed down the recovery and should be held accountable.

Wrong. The Dems controlled the House and Senate in 2009-2010 and passed the $831 billion Stimulus bill, the automotive bailout bill, cash for clunkers, ObamaCare, Wall Street reform, extension of unemployment benefits. He even extended the Bush tax cuts.

Yes, the Republicans gained control of the House in 2010, but by then most, if not all, of Obama's economic policies had been enacted. Name one piece of legislation that the Republicans blocked in Obama's first two years.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Wrong. The Dems controlled the House and Senate in 2009-2010 and passed the $831 billion Stimulus bill, the automotive bailout bill, cash for clunkers, ObamaCare, Wall Street reform, extension of unemployment benefits. He even extended the Bush tax cuts.

You are correct about 2009-2010, but the GOP Senate stonewalled everything they could. It was impossible to get 60 votes to force an issue.

Yes, the Republicans gained control of the House in 2010, but by then most, if not all, of Obama's economic policies had been enacted. Name one piece of legislation that the Republicans blocked in Obama's first two years.

They simply were able to ensure nothing was done. There were two reasons for this:

1. So Obama could not get credit for anything.
2. Because the GOP could not come together and agree with each other on anything.

How many bills have been filibustered by Senate Republicans since President Obama took office? Bloomberg’s Jonathan Bernstein, in “All Filibusters, All the Time,” writes, “The correct count of how many bills have been filibustered during Obama’s presidency is: approximately all of them.”

That’s what it means to have a 60-vote Senate, which is what Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and the Republicans declared as soon as Obama was elected. Almost every measure and, until Majority Leader Harry Reid and the Democrats invoked the nuclear option last fall, almost every nomination, had to have 60 or more votes to pass. That’s a filibuster.

Here are just a few of the hundreds of bills Senate Republicans have filibustered since President Obama took office — just a few:

Infrastructure bills


2011: “Republicans filibuster Obama infrastructure bill”
2012: “‘Phantom filibuster’ blocking path forward for highway bill, says Reid“
2013: “Bipartisan Transportation and Housing Bill Filibustered“

 

[InTheLight]

In his 8 years as president Ronald Reagan NEVER had the House on his side. He had the Senate for 6 of those 8 years.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Wrong. The Dems controlled the House and Senate in 2009-2010 and passed the $831 billion Stimulus bill, the automotive bailout bill, cash for clunkers, ObamaCare, Wall Street reform, extension of unemployment benefits. He even extended the Bush tax cuts.

You are correct about 2009-2010, but the GOP Senate stonewalled everything they could. It was impossible to get 60 votes to force an issue.

Yes, the Republicans gained control of the House in 2010, but by then most, if not all, of Obama's economic policies had been enacted. Name one piece of legislation that the Republicans blocked in Obama's first two years.

They simply were able to ensure nothing was done. There were two reasons for this:

1. So Obama could not get credit for anything.
2. Because the GOP could not come together and agree with each other on anything.

How many bills have been filibustered by Senate Republicans since President Obama took office? Bloomberg’s Jonathan Bernstein, in “All Filibusters, All the Time,” writes, “The correct count of how many bills have been filibustered during Obama’s presidency is: approximately all of them.”

That’s what it means to have a 60-vote Senate, which is what Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and the Republicans declared as soon as Obama was elected. Almost every measure and, until Majority Leader Harry Reid and the Democrats invoked the nuclear option last fall, almost every nomination, had to have 60 or more votes to pass. That’s a filibuster.

Here are just a few of the hundreds of bills Senate Republicans have filibustered since President Obama took office — just a few:

Infrastructure bills


Equal Pay for Women
Minimum wage increase
Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
Bring Jobs Home Act – stop tax breaks for moving jobs and production facilities out of the country
Teachers and First Responders Back to Work Act of 2011 – rehire 400,000 teachers, firefighters, paramedics and police officers.
Student loan reform – ease the crushing burden of student loan debt by at least allowing refinancing to lower interest rates
Extended unemployment benefits – for the long-term unemployed
Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA) — let working people join unions – filibustered in 2007, killed by threat of filibuster 2009
Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act – let public safety officers join unions
The Buffett rule – ensure millionaires pay a comparable tax rate to middle-class Americans
Repeal Big Oil Tax Subsidies Act

2011: “Republicans filibuster Obama infrastructure bill”
2012: “‘Phantom filibuster’ blocking path forward for highway bill, says Reid“
2013: “Bipartisan Transportation and Housing Bill Filibustered“
http://ourfuture.org/20140923/the-cost-to-our-economy-from-republican-obstruction-and-sabotage

 

[InTheLight]

You are correct about 2009-2010, but the GOP Senate stonewalled everything they could. It was impossible to get 60 votes to force an issue.

They simply were able to ensure nothing was done. There were two reasons for this:

1. So Obama could not get credit for anything.
2. Because the GOP could not come together and agree with each other on anything.

OP is about the economic "mess" that Obama inherited. Obama's solutions to the economic mess were passed in 2009-2010. True, in later years Republicans blocked him on other legislation, but these bills did not directly affect the economy. Obama got his tax hike on the rich in January 2013. I wonder why he didn't enact that when he had control of both sections of Congress?

 

[poncho]

Because Obama and the Bush's work for the same oligarchs who've made out like the bandits they are during both administrations.

 

[righteousdude2]

I will never say that Bush was without problems. He had many and did his share to ruin this economy!

But, any spin you guys are giving to prop up Obama is nothing more than spin!

People and polls are what counts, and they show Obama is not fixing the economy, but rather harming it!

CNNN shows Obama down 51% to 47% http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/poll-obama-approval-rating-economy/index.html

Anyone can dig up polls that show I am wrong, but this CNN poll is from a liberal network that leans and loves Obama. So that should say something.

Debate over! :smilewinkgrin:

 

[carpro]

Bottom line is that, yes, Obama did inherit a mess. Then...

He's spent 6 plus years making it worse and creating problems that did not exist or exacerbating those that did.

 

[matt wade]

People and polls are what counts, and they show Obama is not fixing the economy, but rather harming it!

And here I've gone through life thinking that it's the facts that matter. Silly me.