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Differences Between Clintons

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Dec 7, 2006.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Distinct Differences Between Clintons
    By: Dick Morris

    EXCERPT

    Those who know both Hillary and Bill well and are willing to speak frankly in public realize the fundamental differences between the two and grasp how his abilities are the counterpoints to her defects.

    He is intensely creative, constantly turning issues over in his mind seeking new solutions. She rarely has a new idea but specializes in advocacy — the rote recitation of talking points.

    He has an instinctual feel for people and an uncanny ability to read a room and know what everyone in it is thinking. She is obtuse in her understanding of people and ham-handed in her approach.

    He cares deeply about being loved. She seeks popularity as a means to the goal of getting elected but otherwise marches to the beat of her inner, liberal drummer.

    He distrusts ideology, and his innate perfectionism finds all belief systems flawed. She swallows the ideological line of the guru du jour hook, line, and sinker. During the health-care years, it was Ira Magaziner that pushed her buttons.

    When she decided to back the Iraq war, it was the generals who paraded before her committee. She is vulnerable to a cultish adoration of the guys with all the answers.

    He lets the give and take of politics wash off his back. A critic is a potential convert whom he hopes to charm over to his side. She has a rigidly dichotomized view of friends and enemies, demanding total loyalty and public silence from the former and maintaining a ruthless determination to destroy the latter.

    She is a Democratic Nixon to those whom she perceives as her enemies.
    He is a moderate by instinct, seeking incremental change. She devotedly and deeply believes in a European-style socialism in which government takes much more of our national income and offers a far wider array of services and benefits.

    He'll raise taxes when he has to. She'll increase them just to redistribute income.
     
  2. JamieinNH

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    She a woman and he's a man. :laugh:


    Jamie
     
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    Hardly noticeable.
     
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    Imagine! Carpro finding something that is insulting to Hillary Clinton. :sleep:
     
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    carpro Well-Known Member
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    But complimentary of Bill.

    Yeah, imagine that.:laugh:

    Do you find fault with Morris' assessment or do you just go in for cutesy comments?

    I find it interesting because he is one of the few people that knows them both intimately in the political setting.

    Bill's faults are mainly in the area of taking personal responsibility for his acts of immorality. As a politician, he is superb.

    Apparently she is intensely acquisitive of power, vindictive and petty and has nowhere near the political skills of Bill.

    If I was a Republican, I would be hoping she is the democrat nominee for President.
     
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    Pot just called kettle black!

    Apparently, the voters in New York disagree with this assessment.

    :laugh: If you were a Republican, yeah right. :laugh:
     
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    Once again.

    Do you have anything constructive to contribute to the discussion? :BangHead:
     
  8. Bro. James Reed

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    If her name was not Clinton, she never would have been elected.

    If Bill was to run against her for Senator, he would win in a landslide.

    He is a great politician, she is not.
     
  9. Terry_Herrington

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    Alright, how about this?

    I have only responded to you in a similar way in which you respond to the posters you consider to be liberal.

    I have long ago given up trying to have any type of intelligent conversation with you. Just take a few minutes and review the last dozen or so interactions you have had with Daisy and maybe you will understand what this decision of mine is based on.

    As far as Hillary Clinton is concerned; however, the very topic of this thread shows your contempt for Mrs. Clinton. I doubt very seriously that you would have started this if the conclusion reached by these third-party spectators in the Clinton's life had been positive instead of negative.

    I do find it odd that, as a professing Christian, you find it so easy to demean those you disagree with on such a personal level. Whether or not Hillary Clinton is personable or not has nothing to do with her ability to perform the job she was elected to, and unless you live in her district, it really should be of little concern to you.
     
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    To my knowledge , you've never attempted "intelligent conversation" with me. At least , not that I've noticed.

    Daisy is completely capable of taking care of herself and is the undisputed queen of sarcasm. Who appointed you her protector?

    You make yourself look complete foolish and childish by following me around and making inane comments.

    But at least you finally addressed the subject. So... Congratulations!

    If Hillary expects to run for President, I'll live in her district. Anyone planning on running for national office is my business as well as anyones. Get over it.

    All of it.
     
  11. Terry_Herrington

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    :BangHead:

    Not protecting anyone, just showing your pattern toward people you disagree with.

    You think too highly of yourself. I post on the topics I find interesting regardless of who is posting there. If my posting bothers you, go somewhere else. I will post where I please without regards to what you think.

    Thank you!

    I have my doubts as to whether or not Hillary actually runs for President. But, if she runs, she will probably get my vote. Get over it!
     
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    She'll run.

    Considering your posts on this subject, I wonder why I'm not surprised. :smilewinkgrin: Your real objection is obviously is to anything posted about Hillary that is not exactly, shall we say, flattering.
     
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    Really good post that makes a lot of sense. Morris should know. I do hope hillary runs. I saw that bumper sticker on the FRONT of a car.
     
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    IMHO, the book "Year of the Rat" should be required reading by Christians and anyone else unsure of their '08' vote. It is a fully documented book of the lives of the Clintons, particularily Bill, but including Hillary. These are not the kind of people this nation needs in any political realm.
     
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    GW is so much worse than either of the Clintons that it's laughable that these kinds of discussions take place. GW Bush is the worst president in American history.
     
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    I highly doubt that he is the worst in history. He just happens to have a very bad reputation and is very fresh in everyone's mind. Probably 1/3 of the country, in any given year, believes we are sitting under the worst President in history. That goes for GWB on back. Bush's major problem has been, in my opinion, the fact that he surrounded himself with Cold War-era politicians and insiders who have turned this country back to a Cold War mentality. A war against islamic terrorists can not be fought in the same fashion as the cold war. Many of the people that are supposedly "suffering" under islamic rule are quite happy with their laws because they believe they are based on their religion.

    I am to the point now where I believe that those living in such countries should either rise up against their aggressors for themselves or just leave. I agree that we have no business policing Iraq, which is what we are now doing.

    All that said, that still doesn't make GWB the worst president ever. In fact, I think his dad was worse than he has been. If dad had taken out Sadam, with the backing of the world when he had the chance and the "right", after the invasion of Kuwait, then we would not be in Iraq today. Morally speaking, Clinton was a worse President. Foreign policy-wise, Carter was awful. National policy-wise, LBJ was the worst ever.

    Until we get a person in office who actually is conservative ans who will not bow down to political pressure, whether in his administration or from another party, then we will most likely be stuck with the same old, same old.

    BTW, we don't know that GWB is worse than Hillary because she has not been President yet, and hopefully will never have the opportunity. Whether he's worse than Bill is purely opinion.
     
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    I wondered how long it would take. In historical retrospect, you'll find only GWB willing to fight these evil people. No other president has or will.
     
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    Bush II as worst president ever? Depends on how long it takes to clean up the cesspool in Washington.

    Maybe so. But his is not yet shown to be the most corrupt administration (Reagan) or the weakest (Buchanan). Close to the most oppressive, though.

    That in itself wouldn't earn him the title.
     
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    Actually, Senator Hillary Clinton is not my first choice for a Democratic candidate in 2008. As it stands now, I would support Senator Joseph Biden before I would support Clinton, but it is a long way till the 2008 election. Things will surely change between now and then.
     
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    I believe if you check judicial records , you'll find the Clinton Administration was far more corrupt than Reagan's.
     
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