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Baptistism is the first act of obedience in the Christian life.nunatak said:I was raised in heresy. In this heresy, I was baptized, putting my faith in baptism that it literally washed my sins away. I did not put my faith in Christ alone.
Do I need to be rebaptized? In the last year, I would say that I have put my faith in Christ alone.
nunatak said:I was raised in heresy. In this heresy, I was baptized, putting my faith in baptism that it literally washed my sins away. I did not put my faith in Christ alone.
Do I need to be rebaptized? In the last year, I would say that I have put my faith in Christ alone.
Nothing happened to it, IF your friend wasn't baptised AFTER he believed (and knows the truth now) he stands in obstinant disobedience to our Lords command of being baptised AFTER your saved. As a pastor his refusal would bring questions to mind of his sincerity? (though not specifically denying his salvation) There is no baptism before salvation it is just getting wet to fulfill a religious observance that has absolutely no meaning biblically.Zenas said:As much as I have been involved in Baptist life there is one thing I will never understand. If baptism is only symbolic of dying to the old life and rising in the new, why do we pay so much attention to the minutiae of this ordinance? We won't accept infant baptism; we won't accept sprinkling no matter when it is done; we won't even accept believer's baptism by immersion unless the believer believes it is only symbolic. I have a friend who has attended our church for several years but won't join because he would have to be baptized again. He was sprinkled as a child and believes he became a Christian at that time, and he is unwilling to renounce his previous baptism. Too bad, because he is a wonderful Christian and would make a really fine deacon if we would accept his baptism. What ever happened to "one lord, one faith, one baptism?
Baptism is far more than this. Baptism is a picture of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is an identification with Him. It is much like my wedding ring. You can tell that I am married when you look at my left hand. I am wearing a wedding band. I am not ashamed in the least for others to know that I have a wife. I am proud of the fact that she is my wife (for 25 years now). However, if I do not have my wedding band on, I am still married, you just can't tell because I have not chosen to identify myself with my wife.Zenas said:If baptism is only symbolic of dying to the old life and rising in the new...
Good point. :thumbs:guitarpreacher said:Allan is right in that it is an act of obedience. But it goes even further than that. It is your public declaration of your having committed your life to Christ. Through the rich symbolism of baptism, you are announcing to everyone who sees that the old you has died, and a brand new you has been raised to new life in Christ.
Well stated.Pastor_Bob said:Baptism is far more than this. Baptism is a picture of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is an identification with Him. It is much like my wedding ring. You can tell that I am married when you look at my left hand. I am wearing a wedding band. I am not ashamed in the least for others to know that I have a wife. I am proud of the fact that she is my wife (for 25 years now). However, if I do not have my wedding band on, I am still married, you just can't tell because I have not chosen to identify myself with my wife.
Baptism is the same. When you are publicly, scripturally baptized, you are identifying with the Lord Jesus Christ. You are stating publicly that you are not ashamed to be identified as a Christian. If you choose not to be baptized, you're still saved, you just chose not to identify with Christ.
What denomination did you leave because of heresy? (If you don't mind telling usnunatak said:Thank you for all the responses. I have a lot to learn about the doctrine of believer's baptism.
My friend was baptized in the Methodist church. He attends the Baptist church with his wife, is very active and to the best of my knowledge contributes financially in a very generous way. He is not ashamed to be identified as a Christian, but will not admit to the invalidity of his baptism. His position is that consenting to be rebaptized is somehow acknowledging the insufficiency of his Methodist baptism. This he will not agree to and I believe he has a good point. Are we Baptists so smug as to really deny the validity of the baptism of all Methodists? I certainly hope not.Pastor_Bob said:Baptism is far more than this. Baptism is a picture of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is an identification with Him. It is much like my wedding ring. You can tell that I am married when you look at my left hand. I am wearing a wedding band. I am not ashamed in the least for others to know that I have a wife. I am proud of the fact that she is my wife (for 25 years now). However, if I do not have my wedding band on, I am still married, you just can't tell because I have not chosen to identify myself with my wife.
Baptism is the same. When you are publicly, scripturally baptized, you are identifying with the Lord Jesus Christ. You are stating publicly that you are not ashamed to be identified as a Christian. If you choose not to be baptized, you're still saved, you just chose not to identify with Christ.
We are not so smug, but we stand on the what the bible declares. That is not being smug that is being biblical.Zenas said:My friend was baptized in the Methodist church. He attends the Baptist church with his wife, is very active and to the best of my knowledge contributes financially in a very generous way. He is not ashamed to be identified as a Christian, but will not admit to the invalidity of his baptism. His position is that consenting to be rebaptized is somehow acknowledging the insufficiency of his Methodist baptism. This he will not agree to and I believe he has a good point. Are we Baptists so smug as to really deny the validity of the baptism of all Methodists? I certainly hope not.
nunatak said:I was raised in heresy. In this heresy, I was baptized, putting my faith in baptism that it literally washed my sins away. I did not put my faith in Christ alone.
Do I need to be rebaptized? In the last year, I would say that I have put my faith in Christ alone.
I would suggest that you don't need to be re-baptized. You need to be baptized. If I have understood you correctly, and you have become a Christian in the last year, putting your faith in Christ alone, then no matter what the ceremony you went through before might have been called, it was not baptism in the biblical sense.nunatak said:I was raised in heresy. In this heresy, I was baptized, putting my faith in baptism that it literally washed my sins away. I did not put my faith in Christ alone.
Do I need to be rebaptized? In the last year, I would say that I have put my faith in Christ alone.
Allan said:Baptistism is the first act of obedience in the Christian life.
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David Lamb said:I would suggest that you don't need to be re-baptized. You need to be baptized. If I have understood you correctly, and you have become a Christian in the last year, putting your faith in Christ alone, then no matter what the ceremony you went through before might have been called, it was not baptism in the biblical sense.
David Lamb said:I would suggest that you don't need to be re-baptized. You need to be baptized. If I have understood you correctly, and you have become a Christian in the last year, putting your faith in Christ alone, then no matter what the ceremony you went through before might have been called, it was not baptism in the biblical sense.
My parents were Church of England, so they had me "baptized" as a baby, according to that denomination's beliefs. Obviously at that stage, I knew nothing about sin, salvation, or the Lord Jesus Christ. When I was converted some 19 years later, I was baptized. I certainly don't look upon it as a re-baptism.