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Do we really know where the Temple was?

Discussion in 'History Forum' started by North Carolina Tentmaker, Jun 14, 2005.

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  1. North Carolina Tentmaker

    North Carolina Tentmaker New Member

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    OK guys, I may be way out in left field here, but I was thinking (a dangerous thing I know). I hold to a pre millennial view and the last big thing that I see that must happen before Christ’s return is the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. Now I know many people would disagree with me from the start but hear me out.

    The biggest difficulty in rebuilding the Temple that I see is the location. The Temple mount is sacred to Muslims and important historically and would start a major war if the Jews tried to build on it.

    But what if we have the temple site incorrect?

    I got to thinking about this after I heard a message on Abraham and Isaac. You have probably heard this before; obviously Isaac is a type of Christ. The location where Abraham offered Isaac is traditionally believed to be the rock at the temple mount. This is supposedly the same place where the alter stood when the temple was there. But what if instead of on the temple mount Isaac was instead offered on the top of a different nearby hill, say, Golgotha?

    What if Nehemiah got the site wrong when the 2nd Temple was built? Or maybe Herod got the site wrong. There is one wall still standing right? Is that a wall of Nehemiah’s temple or is it later? That gives me some trouble also. If there is still a wall of Herod’s temple standing then what did Jesus mean when he said?

    there shall not be left one stone upon another (Matt 24:2, Mark 13:2, Luke 19:44 and 21:6)

    What if the threshing floor of Ornon, the site of the original Temple, the place where Isaac was offered up, and the place were Jesus was crucified were all the same location? I am not saying that it is, but if it was, that would be cool. And if it were found to be true then Jews could rebuild their temple without disturbing the traditional Temple Mount site.

    Now I have never been to Jerusalem and know very little about the geography there. Am I totally loony or is this possible? Someone who knows something about Jerusalem and has perhaps visited the sites please share your opinion.
     
    #1 North Carolina Tentmaker, Jun 14, 2005
  2. rc

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    Hey,

    Good thinking, and I can see your point.. you are right and wrong on it.

    Abram DID sacrifice Isaac on Golgatha outside the walls of Jerusalem. It IS though on the same mount as the threshing floor. Golgatha is higher (which any good Jew will tell you, you ALWAYS go to the highest point). The temple sit IS the same as Solomons though. I've been there many times and it is amazing. You can go underground and see the foundation of the walls.

    The question is where was the holy of holies...this will determine the temples location.
    Many believe it is the same place as Omar's. But there is a huge ground swelling of belief that it stood where the "Dome of the Spirits" is placed north and to the West of the Rock.... If that is true, the Rock of Omar can still be in place.
     
    #2 rc, Jun 14, 2005
  3. Wife of One

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    How about this point. He will be everywhere, not just in one location but EVERYWHERE.

    I keep thinking about this, and He is God therefore he could be in everyplace at the same moment.
     
    #3 Wife of One, Jun 17, 2005
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    When I mean "North" of the Omar's I mean not "miles" away... I'm talking just about a hundred yards away.... still on the threshing floor. This is the ONLY spot that COULD support the temple any ways. Golgotha is far to small and topography of the land can not support anywhere else anyhow.

    Bethel is where Joseph had his dream, far away from the temple mount. That's just myth.

    Wife of One. Yes, you are correct WE are the temple of God. BUT in SOME end time scenarios, the temple will be rebuilt. Thus the significance of the location is very important. The Temple institute is a great place to see when you are over there. I highly recommend it.

    The "NORTH" conjecture as I have explained before is VERY important, since the temple could be rebuilt AND the mosque would not be compensated. Also, it would fulfill a prophecy that the "Outer" court would be "defiled". This would be the mosque since it would fall within the court dimensions of the outer court, thus the outer court walls not being built.
     
    #5 rc, Jun 17, 2005
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